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My wife told me about this for the first time today. It's very sad. I thought you could only pull the plug on vegetables, not a woman that can move and respond to people she recognizes. I guess the husband got awarded 1.3 million to rehabilitate her but pocketed it and used some to fund attourneys to stop any treatment she might recieve. Anyone have any thoughts?

 

I don’t agree with it at all. It would be one thing if she truly were a vegetable and didn’t move or respond to anything, where she was declared brain dead. I do NOT want to be kept alive like that if I were in a vegetable state were I could not respond to anything.

However, she, at least in my opinion, is not in what I would consider a vegetable state. She seems to respond to some things. Anyway if that was my daughter and she was married and her husband decided to pull the plug I guess I would have to put him in to a vegetable state so he couldn’t follow through.

Sorry, if the parents don’t want it done then tough chit for the husband. This lady is the type of person I do NOT mind my tax money funding if the husband can not afford the cost.

 

Geez i thought my day was bad. That is a terrible way to die. I wouldn't wish that kinda death on anyone. I don't see how a judge could rule something like that. Give lethal injection or something. Starvation is terrible. Oh yea If i were a member of that family Mr.Schiavo would be wishing he could eat out of a feeding tube. There is no right in the way he is doing that women. He married her for better or worse.

 

You know what? There is nothing that a couple shots from a 9mm to the idiot husband's cranium couldn't take care of quick. I think the family member that pulled the trigger may actually be able to plea temporary insanity due to the circumstances. I know if it was my daughter that would be exactly what would happen. Seems like the laws in Florida provide huge loopholes for idiodic ideals and thoughts.

EDIT: To clarify whom should be shot.

 

Let's face it.........if the legal system in this country is truly corrupt, it is handily manipulated by LAWYERS... they are the true henchmen........
Most judges are lawyers also and although they are well aware of the underhanded ways of their profession, they still allow such "work" to go on.
It is well known that money can buy you twisted facts to somehow "prove" your case or deny your rights.

This case is sad but sadder still since the legal system has stepped in to facilitate the husband agenda............

 

I'm ashamed to have judges like that in my state. Let the poor girl live.

 

Obviously if the husband wanted to, he could just just get a divorce, let the parents take care of her, and he could go on with his new life/wife. Why doesn't he do this? Because he is a greedy, evil, basturd. Geez, she isn't even on life support. She only needs a feeding tube, and they aren't even sure that is permanently neccessary!
We know what's in it for the lawyer, and husband, but this makes me wonder what's in it for the judge who would, not only allow her to be killed, but actually order her death!

 

"...the Schindlers have been fighting with their son-in-law for 10 years over the lack of care and therapy Schiavo provided for their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under mysterious circumstances at the age of 26."

The husband sounds like a sleaze for sure. Sounds like maybe he didn't kill her the first time.

 

seen a blurb on the news that they have removed the feeding tube. that sucks. husband should be charged with murder, and civil suit for wrongful death to take away his precious med fund.

 

Yea the tubes gone. You know if an animal gets hurt we have the decentcy to have it put to sleep. Why can't they just put her to sleep and not let her die of starvation. That would be a better death than dieing of hunger..

 

what a scumbag, If I was her father that guy would get chopped up *like* a vegitable...

 

I usually don't get involved in this type of situation, but......

It seems to me that either there is something terribly flawed in the Florida Legal System or we are being presented with materiel which is claimed to be factual but is not.

Probably like many of you, I took the time to read a great deal of what was presented on the two websites listed above. If what I read was the truth, even the half of it, I must say that this cannot be happening in this country. If the nurses did indeed file affidavits stating what I read on the sites; deliberate withholding or forbidding of any sort of rehabilitative treatment, possible fiddling with her insulin/blood sugar, tampering/altering/destroying of medical records and of course statements attributed to the husband "when is the bitch going to die" and all the other stuff why has the court or more correctly the judge ordered what to my simple mind is a torturous barbaric way of ending this poor woman's life.

To return to my first paragraph, I've been around the block a few times and realize the two websites were essentially advocacy type presentations of one side of the issue. Advocates or special interest groups or whatever on either side of an issue will spin whatever information they have to their best advantage and I underestand and accept that. In this case, I am a little bothered by the fact that a lot of the stuff mentioned in the affidavits, if they actually exist, took place several years ago and there seems to be a pretty big time gap between those exchanges and the recent court ruling.

Even with those issues being a little bit cloudy, if I read the articles correctly, I never read that a panel of doctors completely removed from the emotional side of the case made a determination that she was a vegetable or whatever. It seems it was one person and that person is possibly tainted. Might have that wrong but at 4 AM that was the way I understood it.

Without dragging this out too long, even if it is a fact that the woman is in a totally vegetative state and there is not now nor will there ever be a possibility for improvement in her condition I cannot as a human being understand or accept the method that the State of Florida has chosen to end her life. I cannot for the life of me understand why Jeb Bush or even someone higher than him doesn't step into this thing and try to do right by this poor woman. Get another opinion, if that opinion is that there is no hope then get it over with immediately. If the opinion is that therapy may help her even if she never fully recovers then I agree with Burt. If the husband has squandered the $1 plus million then the rest of will foot the bill and I would do it gladly.

This lady deserves a lot better than she is getting as of today.

Bill

 

But didn't her brother state that she told him she didn't want to live like that?

I guess, that a good reason to have a living will

 

unsure about the brother, but the husband has said she told him that. how convenient.
that's one of those things that anyone close to you would know. everyone who knows me knows i want no tubes hooked up to sustain my life, and i'm sure she would have told many people as well.
now of course the only question is will they admit that or hasn't she ever said it?

 

Well, the saga goes on and I have now read virtually everything on those two threads; watched the videos, listened to the audios and I am truly angered.

I am still not quite sure which side is right, probably neither one is 100% correct, but there does seem to be a pattern of the husband being able to use both his and her proceeds from the malpractice suit and some other settlements to put his wife down.
In reading the newspaper article on the Terry site about where the money went, it would seem that it only takes about $50 to $80 thousand a year to take care of her and I gather she is paying her own way so to say. On the other hand it seems that hundreds of thousands have been spent by her husband on legal fees trying to end her life.

I am as far from a medical expert as anyone can be but to share a bit of my own life, I lost a sister and a stepmother to cancer and in both cases at the end they were "allowed to die" if I can use that term. In other words, the doctors, and we had several opinions including from doctors not associated with the cases, more or less said it is over and the most humane thing to do at this point is end the suffering. My sister's husband essentially made the call in her case and my father did the same in my stepmother's case but with pretty much full consultation and agreement with the rest of the family. I don't know the technical details and don't want to, but both of them were at peace within less than a day.

I understand fully that those situations were very different from the one we are discussing here. Terry is in no immediate danger of dying nor is she in agonizing pain with no hope of recovery from that pain as many cancer patients are or other folks who have sustained massive injuries that require total life support just to keep them alive with absolutely no hope of any kind of regaining of any of their normal functions.

To close this one my friends, I am about as far from a bleeding heart tree hugger as you will find. I consider myself a realist and I can accept that maybe Terry may well be in a "persistent vegetative state" if I have quoted it correctly. And if so and if that is grounds for ending her life then so be it.

What I cannot accept is the deliberate starving to death of a fellow human being, day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute.
Please forgive me for being so blunt but a simple injection of morphine or some other sort of chemical would yield the same result and be a lot faster if no-one is going to stop the process.

Sorry if I have offended anyone here, you are all friends, but I think this is a really raw deal for a person I have never met and will never meet but for whom I feel a great deal of sympathy.
Bill