Any electricians here?
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Don't mess the the autoworkers.
I had a run-in as outlined on page three:
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I had a run-in as outlined on page three:
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From: Seabrook,NH
Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
That is why there is NO more union where I work. They would screw all the good workers and protect the weak and lazy ones. It wasn't hard to get an overwhelming majority to vote out the union after years of BS.
A truly good union works for its members. First and foremost by weeding out the chitheads, the lazy and just plain morons. This helps to make them stronger when facing the company. Also, since the company don't have to worry about the losers of the bunch it is not so hard to work with the union.
Good unions do that and/or use to do that. Now day's a lot of unions are there to collect money and protect the chitheads who can NOT seem to get up in the morning like the other 98% of the union employee's do...
That is why there is NO more union where I work. They would screw all the good workers and protect the weak and lazy ones. It wasn't hard to get an overwhelming majority to vote out the union after years of BS.
A truly good union works for its members. First and foremost by weeding out the chitheads, the lazy and just plain morons. This helps to make them stronger when facing the company. Also, since the company don't have to worry about the losers of the bunch it is not so hard to work with the union.
Good unions do that and/or use to do that. Now day's a lot of unions are there to collect money and protect the chitheads who can NOT seem to get up in the morning like the other 98% of the union employee's do...
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Norm,
Let me speak from experience. I was an electrical apprentice and then gave it up. Long story, I won't get into it.
It is a truly enjoyable vocation. In my opinion one of the toughest trades based on the volume of information you need to know.
Everything from doing 3000 ridgid pipe runs (all back breaking, no intelligence required) all the way to advanced robotics and PLC's.
So here are the basics....
first get someone to sponsor you. All states have rules regarding how many journeymen in the company to apprentices (some are 2 to 1, most are 3 to 1)
This means that they may be busy but they take you on... OR they take you on as a laborer but the hours dont count.
Second. Okay, maybe they work 60 hours a week. Your employer needs to sign a log book for you that you worked those hours to the local apprenticeship committee (usually run by the union or state department of employment)
So you worked 60, but they may only put 40 in your log.
All union arguemnts aside... the union is the best way to pursue an apprenticeship. They have a more formal training/education program.
Been there,. Done that. I speak from experience in this.
Let me speak from experience. I was an electrical apprentice and then gave it up. Long story, I won't get into it.
It is a truly enjoyable vocation. In my opinion one of the toughest trades based on the volume of information you need to know.
Everything from doing 3000 ridgid pipe runs (all back breaking, no intelligence required) all the way to advanced robotics and PLC's.
So here are the basics....
first get someone to sponsor you. All states have rules regarding how many journeymen in the company to apprentices (some are 2 to 1, most are 3 to 1)
This means that they may be busy but they take you on... OR they take you on as a laborer but the hours dont count.
Second. Okay, maybe they work 60 hours a week. Your employer needs to sign a log book for you that you worked those hours to the local apprenticeship committee (usually run by the union or state department of employment)
So you worked 60, but they may only put 40 in your log.
All union arguemnts aside... the union is the best way to pursue an apprenticeship. They have a more formal training/education program.
Been there,. Done that. I speak from experience in this.
