I currently drive a 12 F150 with 5.0 and 3.55 gears. I pull a 6k+ trailer through the mountains during camping season. Right now, this truck has to be in 2nd gear at 4k rpm to maintain 40mph in the hills, and when doing so the transmission gets hot enough that I've had to pull off on more than one occasion and let it cool down. I'm also limited on payload after I load generator, bikes, and firewood in the bed along with the family I'm at or over what the truck can handle according to the door sticker.

Anyway, I've been looking to upgrade to a 6.2 Lariat but they are quite expensive even used and if not, have lots of miles on them. I've come across a very low miles 2010 Lariat F250 cc long bed 4x4 with V10 motor and 4.10 gears. Would this truck pull similarly or better than my current setup in the hills? It has roughly double the payload capacity but only the 5 speed transmission. The 5spd does not have select shift like my 6 speed so I guess you just let the truck decide when to up and downshift in hills?

I test drove the v10 and was unimpressed with the power but that seems to be the common perception with this motor unloaded. This is the newest iteration 3v triton v10. Mileage is of little concern, it won't be my daily driver and I already get 9mpg towing with my f150. Just looking for an easier towing experience without going diesel (not an option for me since vehicle sits 90% of the time). I have a sct x4 tuner on my 5.0 with 5* tunes that will be moving to the new truck if I get it, hopefully a custom tune will wake up the electronic throttle like it did on my f150? Thoughts?

 

Your 5.0 is 385 hp at 5750 rpm, 387 tq at 3850 rpm.
The V-10 is 362 hp at 4750 rpm, 457 tq at 3250 rpm.

I'd go for it, for nothing else than the higher payload capacity. It should be an easier tow, a lot more torque at lower rpm's.

 

Is that 5spd auto in the f250 pretty stout? Truck has less than 40k miles on it, previous owner installed airbags with onboard compressor and was towing a 28ft toy hauler.

 

Make darn sure it has an auxiliary transmission cooler.
Change the fluid, don't just drain the pan, change all the transmission fluid

 

Don't they all have an auxiliary transmission cooler standard on the super duties?

 

V10 makes gobs of torque, but it sure is thirsty doing all that work

Why not just upgrade your current truck's transmission cooler?

 

Already done, I'm using a Dorman direct replacement 6 row cooler (stock is 4), I've got coil over towing shocks on the truck so no sag and LT tires for stability. Running 5* performance/tow 87 octane tune. A 4.10 gear swap would be the next thing to do but it's $2k for the swap including parts and labor. And none of those things alter my payload or increase torque enough to let me pull a hill with the converter locked in at least 3rd gear....

 

The F250 probably has bigger brakes, bigger axles, bigger axle bearings, more wheel lugs, all the stuff we don't normally think about that gets considered when giving a tow rating.

 

My bad, it's a 2009, here it is. Is this a good price? They claim to have very little wiggle room but I'm pretty sure they gave quite a bit less on the trade in. I drove it before it had even hit the lot, straight from the previous owner and it didn't need anything. I did hear a ticking or clicking inside the dash on the drivers side of the radio though which I suspect is a blend door but the heat and ac worked.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...9897/overview/

 

In comparison, it's not really that bad. It should get 9 mpg towing, that's what a friend of mine got in a V10 Excursion towing an enclosed 7k trailer. With no trailer it's pretty bad, figure around 12.

 

Nice looking truck! Crew Cab with the long bed makes it very long. That may take a little adjusting to. But the longer wheel base will make it more stable towing. Do what they do offer your dream price and go from there.

 

Private party KBB book in very good condition is $28k, so that's a damn good price from a dealer.

 

My buddy has an '03 f250 CC V10 2v with 175k (his uncle custom ordered it new). The truck pulls hard. Both have towed snow mobile trailers with it and have experience pulling the same trailers with lesser rangers and f150s. The V10 is impressive and they said it holds gears on the highway. I'd go for it. Mpg empty is usually 12-15 but all that power for towing is worth thr 9-11 towing.

 

Why not just get a EB. That mountain you are towing up at 40 mph at 4 grand in the 5.0 you will be scooting up it at 65 at 3k rpm in a ecoboost.

Here's a 6 percent grade with 6800 lbs on the rear bumper and it would've done it all day if needed to. Also notice the MPG? You wont get that with the V10.



Unloaded im around 21 to 22mpg on numerous trip, loaded up with 7k i get anywhere from 10 to 12 mpg cruising at 65mph.


I had a 99 F250 Crew Cab V10 with the 5 speed. It was a good truck but loaded or unloaded it got around 10 to 11MPG.

 

Ecoboost isn't going to help with the payload issue - and if it's not a daily driver the gas mileage is not really important.