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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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2016: 35.5 mpg mandate

I don't know if ther'e a previous post to this effect but, my local paper ran an article informing of a mandate from "the chosen one" to require all trucks down to 3/4 ton to be able to get 35.5 mpg in order to reduce GGasses. So much for letting the free market decide things. Don't know how you go from 15mg to 35.5 in five years or the overall effect on the 3/4 trucks capability.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ommegang
I don't know if ther'e a previous post to this effect but, my local paper ran an article informing of a mandate from "the chosen one" to require all trucks down to 3/4 ton to be able to get 35.5 mpg in order to reduce GGasses. So much for letting the free market decide things. Don't know how you go from 15mg to 35.5 in five years or the overall effect on the 3/4 trucks capability.
Simple.

They become:

- Expensive (knocking on 'unobtainium' for many)
- Rare.
- And - if that doesn't work to balance the Fleet CAFE - Extinct.

- AFAIK the technology to acheive this HUGE MPG increase while maintaining mission capability does not exist yet.

Not for internal combustion processes as the prime mover (electric, maybe, but the energy storage physics is still biting us in the ***).

5 years is not enough time...

MGD
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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They are dreamers. I'll buy used trucks for the rest of my life if I have to. No one is taking my v8 rumble away.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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35mpg for a Super Duty....okie dokie

Maybe a Flux Capacitor

Nah - I'll stick with my gas guzzlin' V10
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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The problem (once again...) is people in power having no clue how things actually work in the real world.

Remember to Vote November 2nd!

I think this is very unlikely unless they have some sort of hybrid power-train. Or full electric...

You know, quite honestly, I'd be more than happy to buy an electric truck if it had:
-600+ lb-ft torque
-400+ hp
-Travel 400+ miles on a single tank/charge/whatever
-Could refuel/recharge/whatever in less than 10 minutes

Some perspective:

Energy Density (energy per liter) of
-gasoline: ~34 MJ/L
-diesel: ~37 MJ/L
-Lithium-ion battery: 0.9 - 1.3 MJ/L
-Lithium-polymer battery: ~1.2MJ/L

Number of Cycles:
-Gas tank and diesel tank: fill 'er up!
-Lithium-ion: 600-1400 cycles
-Lithium-polymer: 500-1000 cycles

Let's all use a more expensive, heavier power supply (you'll need A LOT of battery material), that contains less energy to drive our vehicles!!

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