What would it have proved if the guy had held it to the floor, dirt flying everywhere?

The '08s were rated to tow a 24,500lb TRAILER, this was a 30,000lb SLED. HUGE difference.

To me "real world power" means hooking to a load and moving it with seemingly little effort. That's what this looked like to me.

 

Hey dont get your panties in a knot...whats up with all the frustration...?oOh nevermind! You aint gotta be like that i kno its tough when your a person who knos everything about everything...but bear with me....this is the article i read about 6months ago....sorry couldn't remember it clearly....it's a "powerstoke" engine...thats the engine's name".......not the name ford gave it i think....some where in here it says they went to court over warranty problems and it ended in the spliting of ford and internations parent company "Navistar"............just please read this.......and sorry my knowledge of ford diesel motors isn't at extensive as yours....I guess your right...i should just never type anything on this forum again.....read link....http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08...el-engine.html

PS. a powerstroke cant' hold up a cummins motor's jock

 

Actually they're Navistar International engines, T444E (7.3L), VT365 (6.0L) & the MaxxForce 7 (6.4L *) that Ford branded the Powerstroke name. Just like Dodge branded their engines Hemi (they're not true hemispherical heads), it's just a recognizable brand name.


*The MaxxForce7 (6.4L) that Navistar International uses on their trucks doesn't have the sequential turbo setup.



edited to add: just so nobody fixates on the Hemi statement, the "hemi" engines I speak of is the current run of Dodge engines - '03-current. Not the motors of the 60's and early 70's.

 

Oh thats cool...thanks for the info....so your sayin like the chrysler/dodge engines 5.7, 6.1, etc. dont really have the hemispherical head design? did not kno that...! Why not tho, Is it more expensive to manufacture or sumthing?
My brother has a srt8 charger and he beat a new Camaro SS! His is a sedan...with cai and tuner but thats it! crazy!
That doesnt have anything to do with anything on this thread i kno but i just thought it was awesome since i dislike GM so much...

 

it has less to due with cost and more to do with international building crap and not backing up warranty claims.

uhh yes...in North America they are. thank god. still may have ties with their blue diamond line but the future of the 650 750 is unclear at this moment.

 

exactly!!!

 

I don't buy that. The problems with the 6.0 were caused by two things. Ford's engine management software and people using tuners to increase horsepower. Navistar has traditionally made excellent engines, and they are used in many other applications. I would put a lot more trust in an engine built by a company that has been building diesels for almost 100 years than in a first try by car company that can't even get the spark plugs right on it's most popular vehicle.

 

Furthermore, I am proud that Navistar engines are American made at Indianapolis Casting Corporation (ICC) foundry and the Indianapolis engine plant. Both of these factories closed, displacing 700 American employees. The new 6.7-liter diesel engine will be manufactured in Mexico by Mexican workers. I guess that's how Ford is going to "stay competitive and profitable in the diesel segment".

 

its working...stock trucks pull like that, especially when its heavy like that, stock 6.4s look like that at our pulls, quiet, smooth, no tire spin at the end in duallys...

 

ok...first off..head gaskets on the 6.0 (or more so the head bolts stretching) happens on STOCK trucks just as much as tuned trucks, the tuner just speeds up the process. Yes i am aware Ford is running more boost then International is on the same engine. Do you think International did not know this? Also they had 4 years to fix this issue...did they? NOPE! just keep pumping out the same crap. That is just one part of the laundry list of problems with the 6.0.

Now on to the 6.4 disaster. We are pulling cabs off these things and doing high pressure pumps faster then we can throw a stick at them, at thats the smallest problem. When any fuel injector problems happen on these it is CATASTROPHIC engine failer. Melted pistons and bent connecting rods every time. We have one tech that is doing nothing BUT long blocks on 6.4s. Finishes one up pulls another one in. Is it a better engine then the 6.0? NOPE! They increased the diameter of the headbolts at least..but I can tell you we dont do many long block 6.0s Many have over 400,000 which made there only by help of aftermarket head studs and egr deletion and the anual inejctor changes.

Ask any heavy duty mechanic what he thinks of Internationals heavy truck line up. They arent just crap in the superduty everything they make is CRAP!

Congratulations International on the 7.3 and previouse engines....wow you can make an engine with absolutly no emission controlls..GOOD FOR YOU!

To sum it up...you can say international makes good engines all you want..im allowed to say they are crap because I work on them every day and see it first hand.

 

Wow, did it ever occur to you that the reason you see so many broken trucks is because Ford sells so many trucks? Did it ever occur to you that you are only seeing a small percentage of the trucks that are on the road? Did it ever occur to you that the reason you only see broken trucks is because you took a job that requires you to fix broken trucks? Did it ever occur to you that you are complaining about the fact that you have to do the job that you are getting paid to do? What are you, about 22 years old? I've had two of them with no issues. Talk all you want about the product that you are paid to service. I'm sure you'll be doing the same thankless job for years to come with an attitude like that.

 

So, what the hell are you trying to argue? We ARE in fact, talking about trucks at the truck pull!

 

may i remind you I live in a town of 8000 ppl and we are seeing this many of these trucks...small percentage? I can assure you it is anything but. Being in a small town I know most of the customers by name, and though there is SOME trouble free ones, the ones that do have troubles are just as many if not more.

did I complain about my job at all? nope i love it.

 

Maybe Canadians are just harder on their trucks...or Ford just sends the bads ones up north!

 

well explain this to me? why isnt the new engine built by Navistar?, why wasnt a new contract negotiated? Why is one of Fords newest slogans "if you want something done right, do it your self" surely if Ford can accept it others can as well, numbers do not lie. Will the 6.7 live up to the hype Ford is putting out? They seem to think so...only time will tell.