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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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cooling your turbo?

here is an interesting product that I came across while searching out new exhaust systems.

Diesel TURBO Lifesaver (DTLS) is the cure for problematic heat related turbocharger failures. Failure to cool your Turbo properly can kill it prematurely and can even cost you a whole new engine. Diesel Turbo Lifesaver automatically idles your engine and then shuts it off, all without needing the ignition key, thus saving the time and aggravation of waiting for the turbo to cool. Additionally, Diesel Turbo Lifesaver features a built in SECURITY feature to safeguard your vehicle and can also be used as a PRE-LUBER to maximize the life of your engine.

So are we supposed to let the engine run for a few minutes before shutting off the engine? How does one properly cool down the turbo? Who knew? Man! I'm learning something new every day about these turbo diesels. I'm obviousely a first time diesel guy. Maybe new turbo diesel buyers should be offered a class before buying so we don't prematurely kill our trucks.... or maybe that is the idea from the dealers standpoint!

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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott 7065
here is an interesting product that I came across while searching out new exhaust systems.

Diesel TURBO Lifesaver (DTLS) is the cure for problematic heat related turbocharger failures. Failure to cool your Turbo properly can kill it prematurely and can even cost you a whole new engine. Diesel Turbo Lifesaver automatically idles your engine and then shuts it off, all without needing the ignition key, thus saving the time and aggravation of waiting for the turbo to cool. Additionally, Diesel Turbo Lifesaver features a built in SECURITY feature to safeguard your vehicle and can also be used as a PRE-LUBER to maximize the life of your engine.

So are we supposed to let the engine run for a few minutes before shutting off the engine? How does one properly cool down the turbo? Who knew? Man! I'm learning something new every day about these turbo diesels. I'm obviousely a first time diesel guy. Maybe new turbo diesel buyers should be offered a class before buying so we don't prematurely kill our trucks.... or maybe that is the idea from the dealers standpoint!

Scott

its all a bunch of crap..
factory cooling is sufficant

thats what the INTERCOOLER does...

i haul sand and firewood all summer and never have any "cooling the turbo" problems...i dont let it idle for minutes at a time befor shutting off
turbos dont like dirty oil AT ALL
just treat it like anything else...

however when its cold out heat up is needed for the tranny to function properly...

...zap!
 
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Zap,

thanks for the info. I guess you never know what to believe. Everyone is trying to sell something.

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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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its all a bunch of crap..
factory cooling is sufficant

thats what the INTERCOOLER does...

i haul sand and firewood all summer and never have any "cooling the turbo" problems...i dont let it idle for minutes at a time befor shutting off
turbos dont like dirty oil AT ALL
just treat it like anything else...

however when its cold out heat up is needed for the tranny to function properly...



No, the intercooler is for cooling the Charge air which allows higher boost levels without heat soak problems.
Scott, This is a turbo timer. What these are for is cooling the oil that covers the bearings in a turbo. Remember your turbo turns at 250,000 rpm at full boost and generates a ton of heat in the bearings. If you generate all that heat under prolonged high boost application (top speed run) then just turn the engine off, the oil will burn onto the turbo bearings called coking. This ruins a turbo in very short order. However, the turbo's in your trucks are oil lubricated and water cooled so coking is a problem only after long high boost applications. So how do you prevent coking? After a high boost long duration event, normal driving will bring the oil temp in the bearings back down to a reasonable level. Everyday driving and moderate towing does not generate enough heat to coke, but if you are concerned, a minute of idle before shut down is all that is needed.
Money would be better spent on a good exhaust which will bring down your EGT's to further prevent coking and give you a little more power too.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronlake
its all a bunch of crap..
factory cooling is sufficant

thats what the INTERCOOLER does...

i haul sand and firewood all summer and never have any "cooling the turbo" problems...i dont let it idle for minutes at a time befor shutting off
turbos dont like dirty oil AT ALL
just treat it like anything else...

however when its cold out heat up is needed for the tranny to function properly...



No, the intercooler is for cooling the Charge air which allows higher boost levels without heat soak problems.
Scott, This is a turbo timer. What these are for is cooling the oil that covers the bearings in a turbo. Remember your turbo turns at 250,000 rpm at full boost and generates a ton of heat in the bearings. If you generate all that heat under prolonged high boost application (top speed run) then just turn the engine off, the oil will burn onto the turbo bearings called coking. This ruins a turbo in very short order. However, the turbo's in your trucks are oil lubricated and water cooled so coking is a problem only after long high boost applications. So how do you prevent coking? After a high boost long duration event, normal driving will bring the oil temp in the bearings back down to a reasonable level. Everyday driving and moderate towing does not generate enough heat to coke, but if you are concerned, a minute of idle before shut down is all that is needed.
Money would be better spent on a good exhaust which will bring down your EGT's to further prevent coking and give you a little more power too.

thank you

i dont do "hi boost" anything at all
but good info

...zap!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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I let mine cool for a few seconds, at least down to 300* or so, which only take s few seconds under normal driving conditions. If you're running hard ahd stop quick, it won't hurt to let it cool. Today I made a u-turn and had a D-Max turning right behind me. I nailed leaving him quick and in a cloud of black smoke but had to stop to turn in about 2 blocks. When I put it in Park, I was at about 600* and coming down. About 15-20 seconds and I was down to 300 or so.

Today's oils pretty much eliminate the problems with older turbos and oils, but ti's still a good idea to let ot cool if it's really hot. Most turbo timers will shut off once it reaches a certain temp. We had an old '98 Volvo that even had the recommendation to let the turbo cool down in the manual.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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600 degrees after full throttle? You got to be kidding me? You deisel guys are so very very lucky. My mustang turbo gets to 900 on regular driving and to about 1400 after the quarter. It is always fun to open your hood and see a header, turbine, and down pipe glowing cherry red! Of course your engines lat to 300,000 mi....
 
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