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expedition4x4 06-19-2009 05:55 PM

Eibach Springs Lowering Kit
 
I was wondering if anybody has ever used this kit or know anybody that's used it.

Eibach Pro Truck Kit - 3597.540
Lowers Vehicle - Front: 1.8 in - Rear: 1.6 in

anyone have any photos of this installed, i was thinking about getting this cut to sit lower

this is the only kit that I can find that fits the 03-06 Expeditions

does anyone know if the 07+ Expedition kits are compatible with the 03-06 because if so I might look into the mcgauphys kit that lowers it 2 inches

ELVATO 06-19-2009 07:04 PM

Heh, tell me about it. I was considering getting the kit, but then figured 1.6 inches wouldn't make a huge difference in appearance.

expedition4x4 06-19-2009 07:53 PM

i also saw another one that retails for about $600 or $700 and i think i read that it can be adjusted between 3 and 7 inches

Joe S. 06-20-2009 01:38 AM

One thing I have heard about cutting springs is that doing so increases your spring rate and will make the truck ride rougher. The springs are designed to work the way they are made. I wouldn't suggest cutting them. You may ruin a good set of springs. If you were gonna cut any I'd vut the stockers. Then if you don't like how they ride buy the eibachs and run them.

Have you called the guys at BellTech? They were super friendly when I called them. Very helpful!

expedition4x4 06-20-2009 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Joe S. (Post 3772087)
One thing I have heard about cutting springs is that doing so increases your spring rate and will make the truck ride rougher. The springs are designed to work the way they are made. I wouldn't suggest cutting them. You may ruin a good set of springs. If you were gonna cut any I'd vut the stockers. Then if you don't like how they ride buy the eibachs and run them.

Have you called the guys at BellTech? They were super friendly when I called them. Very helpful!

i think Eibach is the only company that makes lowering springs for the 03-06 Expeditions

Tylus 06-20-2009 02:24 PM

the front shocks are the same between the 03-06 and the 07+ Expy...and you lower these beasts via the shocks usually, not the springs. The shock gets a new lower perch for the spring to sit on inside the Coil-Over


I was looking at the Bilstein shocks and they say you can use

http://www.bilstein.com/cart/index.p...id=1848&zenid=

on a 03-09 Expy.




the rear shocks are the same as well

http://www.bilstein.com/cart/index.p...id=1959&zenid=




now we need to see if the 07+ have the same coil springs as the 03-06 Expy...if so, then you should be able to swap around their stuff in the coil-over department without any issues

Tylus 06-20-2009 02:27 PM

if you want to do a cheap lower, just install 4x2 shocks.


That will drop you 1" up front, but I don't know how the rear is raised...lift pucks? if so, then remove that

expedition4x4 06-20-2009 11:25 PM

i basically want to eliminate the gap between the fender and tire, right now i'm running the factory 17s with the stock continentals, when i need new tires i'm planning on shopping around for some OEM 2004-2008 F150 20s

expedition4x4 06-21-2009 06:28 PM

okay i read that KW Suspension coilovers can be used to lower the 03-06 Expeditions 2 Inches all around....

this guy used the Eibach Springs Lowering Kit on his 07 Limited EL not sure if he used the kit i was talking about in my first post

Stock Height W/ 24s
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0001_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0007_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0008_large.jpg

Lowered W/Eibach Springs
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0016_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0011_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0009_large.jpg

you can definitely notice a difference because the fender and tire gap is almost elminated, there is also the mcgaughys drop springs for 07+ Expys but it can only be used on 2WD

Joe S. 06-21-2009 07:03 PM

Man that is so tight!

Tylus 06-21-2009 07:05 PM

so that is what mine would look like dropped....nice

expedition4x4 06-21-2009 07:22 PM

don't forget he also debadged the whole truck, it makes look super sexy :bows:

Tylus 06-21-2009 08:36 PM

I am not a fan normally of lowered...but what a standard to aspire to.

rjw03expo 06-25-2009 02:53 PM

I just installed the Eibachs and Bilsteins in May, love the combo.

Pics are here

Joe S. 06-25-2009 02:58 PM

That looks nice

expedition4x4 06-25-2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by rjw03expo (Post 3778207)
I just installed the Eibachs and Bilsteins in May, love the combo.

Pics are here

that looks nice i thought it would almost eliminate the fender and wheel gap but guess not... is yours a 4x2? or 4x4? in person can you notice it sits lower?

rjw03expo 06-25-2009 05:59 PM

Almost all the gap is gone, mine is a 4x4 - and IMO - it sits perfect now. Ride and handling are far better than stock also.

Tylus 06-25-2009 09:43 PM

nice roush rims...but what is the drop?

about 1" front, 2" rear?

expedition4x4 06-25-2009 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by rjw03expo (Post 3778474)
Almost all the gap is gone, mine is a 4x4 - and IMO - it sits perfect now. Ride and handling are far better than stock also.

what console is that in the rear from a navigator? did you just remove the center seat and install the console?

MELLOWYELLOW06 06-26-2009 01:27 AM

Very nice. Love the stance with the front a hair lower giving it the raked look. I wonder how it would look like with the blacked out 23" Saleens? I am really tempted now. Can you give more details on the parts and install and cost? Thanks and again, very nice.

rjw03expo 06-26-2009 02:55 AM

On the console - yes, from an 08 Nav, installed that last weekend after fabbing up some brackets.

On the Eibachs - 248 and did Bilstein shocks at same time as I'm at 100k - 350 for shocks, 300 for install on those, and then align and caster/camber adjusters and install was another 400 or so. A little more than I wanted to spend but the align is worth it with these tires. The drop is 1.8 front and 1.6 rear on the Eibach kit - with the new shocks I think it's a little less of a drop.

*and on edit, ride and handling.. far superior than stock, smoother driving yet firmer handling.

Windsor 06-26-2009 10:06 AM

I had the Eibach springs on my 2003 for five years before I traded it on an F-150 late last year. I also installed Hellwig's sway bars. It handled quite well for 5,400 lb. SUV. If you go through the trouble of installing, it would be a wise move to upgrade to better struts at the same time.

Here's a pic.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...001_edited.jpg

expedition4x4 06-26-2009 02:04 PM

wow i like how it sits leveled... was yours a 4x4? and the 18inch lariat wheels make look even better

Windsor 06-26-2009 02:40 PM

It did have a slight rake, but when loaded it leveled out very nice. The spacing between tire and wheel well between front and rear without a load was pretty even. It wasn't a 4x4 and those tires were Michelin 255/70-18s that were take-offs from a Navigator, so it's only slightly taller than the stock 17s were. I couldn't get those Continentals off fast enough. The dealership had to put a camber kit in it to get it aligned, but it drove great. The ride is definitely firmer than stock, but the difference in handling was very noticable.

By 50,000 miles the struts were in bad shape. I bought a set of Rancho RSX struts, but never got around to installing before I traded it. I still have them and they're in way. If anyone is intrested, PM me. The fronts appear to only fit 2002-2003 and the rears 2002-2005. Rancho's application guide shows no difference between 4x2 and 4x4 like the F-150s. If I'm not mistaken these springs were said to fit both 4x2 and 4x4, but that was only through 2004 when I installed mine.

expedition4x4 07-26-2009 03:35 PM

alright guys i have some extra cash and it's either between the drop or some OEM 20s, what should I do ?

Joe S. 07-26-2009 03:38 PM

Drop. :D

ELVATO 07-26-2009 05:15 PM

You got them photoshop skills, do it up :D

expedition4x4 07-26-2009 05:59 PM

but i don't know how much 1 inch drop looks ! :lol: but i'll do something we'll see and you guys need to calm down with all :D

EDIT: the cheapest price that I can find the kit shipped for is $260 anybody have a better price I could check out ?

catogtp 07-26-2009 07:40 PM

Anyone worried about spring rates and a rough ride should steer away from eibach. I've owned several vehicles with them and they suck. Installed competitors with a lower drop and had a much improved ride. Personally, I don't think eibach does any long term testing, or they have testers who don't know what they are doing.

expedition4x4 07-26-2009 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by catogtp (Post 3817453)
Anyone worried about spring rates and a rough ride should steer away from eibach. I've owned several vehicles with them and they suck. Installed competitors with a lower drop and had a much improved ride. Personally, I don't think eibach does any long term testing, or they have testers who don't know what they are doing.

but eibach is the only company that makes a drop for the 03-06 expys :fyi:

ELVATO 07-26-2009 08:07 PM

There are these: http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?i...model=EXPEDITN

The only others I've see that make them. And, they're a full 2" :)

expedition4x4 07-26-2009 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by ELVATO (Post 3817490)
There are these: http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?i...model=EXPEDITN

The only others I've see that make them. And, they're a full 2" :)

can those be installed with out the shocks or do i need to get the shocks too ?

ELVATO 07-27-2009 10:49 AM

Not sure. Just posting another alternative. :)

expedition4x4 07-27-2009 12:55 PM

alright well I guess I'm going lower 2 inches all around :cool: just got to wait until the 14 cause the wife was saying she might need to borrow some money so we'll see what happens

Darth Bama 07-27-2009 01:02 PM

For what it's worth Eibach makes a quality product. I've used their products on several VW's and other compact cars I've owned through the years. They make reliable products needless to say.

expedition4x4 07-27-2009 03:29 PM

wait ELVATO i was just looking at the springs again and it says 2WD... mine is AWD do you think I could still use them ?

ELVATO 07-28-2009 08:01 AM

Not sure. Call them up? I have 2WD, so I'm good :)

expedition4x4 07-28-2009 01:27 PM

i sent them an email, would .4 inches really make a difference ?

expedition4x4 07-29-2009 12:49 PM

I sent an email and this is what they said


Edward,

Greetings, this is Charlie from STILLEN. Thank you for your email and inquiry on Belltech Suspension.



Unfortunately, for your 2005 AWD Expedition, a 2WD suspension will not work. Even though you don’t use the 4WD you still have 4WD suspension.



Belltech only makes a Lowering kit for a 2WD Expedition.



I have a 2”x2” drop available from Ground Force, which is another Top Quality Suspension Company, but it will only work on NON-AIR Ride Trucks.



So if you do not have the rear Leveling system or rear Air Bags I would have a lowering kit available, and unfortunately if you do have the Leveling System or rear Air Bags I would not have a lowering kit available.



If you could please verify the rear setup of your Expedition, I can get you more details on a lowering kit.
navigators are the only ones with the bags rights ?

Patman 07-29-2009 01:01 PM

old expy's had bags too, the 97-02s I would take a peak under your truck and see if you have bags before you order anything


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