Anyone else getting around to hearing this crap. Its starting to become a heated debate and a ridiculous one at that. I can not evan believe that somone would go as far as to say people who drive suv's are supporting terrorism as if there cars dont use gas/oil also. Personally I am actually really frusterated with this whole thing which has just recently been brought to my attention. Anyone else agree or disagree with me on this situation and have anything to say?
-BIll

 

I think what the protestors dont understand is that most people buy SUVs because they have a need for a vehicle that carries multiple passengers. Now granted that may be after work and on weekends and if the owner needs to single car and driver it to get to work so be it.

When SUVs have multiple passengers they are as efficient or more efficient on a per passenger mile/gallon as the econo-boxes driven by a single driver.

 

I just laugh.

A month or so ago I saw a news segment about some church running an add. "What would Jesus drive" was their campaign.

A GM add person was interviewed and she said he would probably drive a Van or big SUV. Why?.......

He would probably be driving his disciples around.lol

Early this month some organization burned several SUV's in PA. They caused more polution during the fire then one SUV causes in a week.

The way things are going. My theory is that there will not be an internal combustion engine built in 50 years.

Regards,

Gas Hog

 

All this talk about SUV drivers are really making me mad!

I totally agree with you hummin25......there are a few different reasons I bought my Navi...I love BIG trucks, needed the room for the *future* family...and to be able to tow my hubby's race car to the track!

People need to find something REAL to talk about and complain about.

 

There is something you're missing.

"SUVs support terrorism" is kind of comparing to "Buying drugs supports terrorism"

The "buying drugs" one is actually a lot dumber then the SUV one if you think about it.

Each time you fill up a big car, you're buying oil straight from the middle east. I'm sure buying a gram of marijauna, which is grown from within the US, provides more money to the terrorists than me buying gallons of oil, I doubt it.

And I bet the ones complaining about the SUV one don't even question the drug one, even though it's the worst.

I drive a 99 expedition and my dad drives a 03 navigator... but I'm not being close minded and overlooking the facts, it is true and I admit to it.

 

I read that the USA gets 70% of it's oil NOT from the middle east.

 

The way I believe it works is all the oil goes into a "pipeline" and then distributed to wherever it is needed/wanted. If you quit driving your SUV and went to an econo car it would not make a tremendous difference in the grand scheme of things. The way I look at it is in ~50 years the oil will be gone and we'll all have switched to hydrogen power of some sort. The technology to push these big rigs around with something other than gas is there, just noone that wants to spend/loose the money to make the change and perfect it.

 

Consider the sources, which are 100% of the time those who really want SUV's, can't have them for reasons that are not always financial, and are jealous of anyone that does. Its a psychological control trick, if I can't have one, no one can. It doesn't have to be reasonable or make sense to rational people, from their standpoint.

 

Don't be ignorant. "They can't afford one so they don't want anyone else to have one"... come on. They are saying if you drive any gas vehicle it contributes to hurting our environment... and an SUV does it at an even more extreme amount. I know none of us have electric or hydrogen powered cars, but we DO have the technology... so its main goal is to help people realize we need some change. In 2010 GMC is going to have a hydrogen cell powered vehicle.. and it looks DAMN good. That is for a company that is all about gas so I was surprised at that... but the time will come. Oh and my aunt drives a 2002 Mercedes S500, and she hates SUVS, what were you saying about jealousy? The normal car is worth as much as most SUVs... enough with the excuses.

Oh... and getting 30% of our oil from the middle east is quite a bit lol... so your saying giving the middle east about couple of billion dollars a week for the oil isn't anything compared to a few billion... that is still a massive contribution- straight to the middle east!

Are our close-minded minds thinking outside of our SUVs, TV and suburban homes now? There we go...

 

That's what I say-

This is America, land of the free, home of the brave, and if I want to drive an SUV, no matter what anyone else' opinion is of it, I'm going to drive it, as long as I have the need and the means.

I'm 6'2" and 270 lbs. I'm not a small man, by any stretch of the definition- so you will not see me shoehorning myself into any econo-boxes, just to keep someone with their own agenda- happy. Sure, fuel economy is great, but so is comfort & personal safety. At my height/weight I think I'm far less likely to sustain head & neck injury in an F-150, than I would be in a Corolla, Civic, Sentra, Tiburon, Accent, Sephia or any other small car.

Unless the person that started this BS, walks to work, to the grocery store, to the hospital, to the movies, to the game, to the restaurant- I don't want to hear their BS... If they paid to ride public transportation- part of that money went to pay for the fuel to transport them- so, they still contributed... Ridden in an ambulance? You paid for it, it's the same thing... (I can be petty too.)

If they've bought one gallon of gas, then they've contributed to "the cause" as much as any SUV driver... There aren't levels of guilt- you're either guilty or not guilty. If you want to think your money supported bringing down the World Trade Center and killing people in the Pentagon, and on those planes- Believe it.

But, you need to also realize that aside from the average consumer- who do you think buys the MOST fuel & oil? That's right, the US Military... I can guarantee you this, that 63 ton M1 Abrams burns way more gas (5-gallons, per mile) **No, not 5 miles per gallon, 5 gallons per mile** than my 2000 Expedition 18 MPG on the HWY. That F-15 Eagle, consumes way more fuel per minute, then my vehicles consume per week. So, before we resort to petty BS about helping the terrorists- let's be real about who's supporting them more, Government, Big Business, or the average consumer. The answer is- None of us.

American government and companies chooses to import oil, that's not a consumer choice. If I had my choice, I'd say fire up those oils rigs in Louisiana, Texas, California, and Alaska, and get my gas back down to .20/gallon- like it is in Saudi Arabia!!! I know what they pay per gallon, I've been there! We filled up a Hum-Vee during Desert Storm from Empty, 30+ gallons, for the equivalent of about $3.00.

I saw more Mustang GT's and Corvette's at one time in Dhahran than I have any other city in America. You'll be hard pressed to find a Saudi driving anything with less than 8 cylinders... I'm not attacking anyone on here personally, but let's just be clear- all cars aren't fuel efficient either..

Anything with a V8, V10 or V12, uses lots of fuel..

Jet's fly 24/7 burning fuel, cars move 24/7burning fuel, Ships sail 24/7 burning fuel (No, all ships don't run on Nuclear power, not even all military ships).

Most of the vehicles moving today, does so by fuel made/produced by refining oil purchased from OPEC. Are you willing to give up your way of life because some silly SOB told you your truck, or your friend's truck helped pay for terrorism? If you are, send me your keys!

FYI- SUV's on the whole, pollute the atmosphere a lot less than small economy cars did ten years ago... Car & Driver did an article abouit this last year- They Compared a 2001 Ford Expedition to a 1991 something- The Excursion was much cleaner at factory specs with regard to emissions.

Do we need to protect the environment? Yes we do. Are we (consumers) sitting on the technology to make it better? No. Are we paying for terrorism? No. Also, please note that cars on the whole, are a lot cleaner than at any time in our automotive history.

So, there are no levels of guilt. You're no more guilty of helping terrorism in your Tahoe, than the driver next to you in his Cavalier... If we are, there is no in-between. You are either guilty, or not guilty... Make a choice, if you really believe you're at fault.....

Meanwhile, I think I'll go for a ride..

 

Amen Bighersh... Halleyluia you the man. Well said and Carlson I dont support your views but to each his own.
-Bill

 

The people who don't want us to drive SUV's are the same ones that don't want us to drill in the gulf or in Alaska for our own oil. If we could drill for our own oil then we wouldn't have to worry about "supporting terrorist" w/ our SUV's. I watched Robert Kennedy Jr. on a morning show a couple of days ago whining about SUV's supporting terrorist. I wonder how good the limo he took to the studio was on gas? I'm sure the Kennedys' use more oil on limo's and helicopters in a week than I have in all my vehicles over the last 10 years, with the exception of my 67 mustang w/ a 428 Last of all, my Navi uses less fuel than my 84 SVO did, so the liberals can **** off.

 

Yep, I'm sure he rode there in a Limo, and I doubt that anyone in his family drives anything with less than 8-cylinders...

Not to mention the private planes, helicopters, etc...

And, in his extended family- I doubt that Maria Shriver & Arnold Schwarzenegger are puttering around in a 4-banger...


Arnold bought the FIRST Hummer available to civilians, didn't he?
I KNOW those aren't good on fuel. I drove them for free, for 10 years....

The military doesn't own anything that's fuel efficient!
So, I guess the fuel we burned during Desert Storm, and our training missions, helped Bin-Laden or whomever, attack America on 9/11. We can't win for losing!!!

Tree-huggers get on my nerves.

 

we have an 87 Mazda B2000 pickup (mine), a 2002 Tacoma (dad's) and a 98 Ford Expy (mom's). so whenever i see or hear ads about SUVs being bad i like rev up the engine and burn some more gasoline. all this stuff pisses me off so bad. i think if they want to cut off the gas source for us SUV drivers. they need to head over to Iraq. while they're over they we need to start fighting and "accidently" bomb a location where they are

 

Hmmm, let's see:
liberal- 7 letters
dumba**- 7 letters
crybaby- 7 letters
wannabe- 7 letters

Yes indeed, those liberals, a bunch of dumba**, crybaby wannabe's. Wannabe able to somehow match wits and common sense with "regular" people. You know, the kind of people who WOULD NOT elect and then re-elect some pr**k who (on the taxpayers time) runs around blowing his lo*d on overweight and stupid interns, then lies under oath about it on national television. Gee, can I be a liberal too?? Sure, get a lobotamy.

SL