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Old Nov 14, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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High Altitude Performance

I've been told the cold air induction systems such as K&N really don't give any real world enhancement. But would something like this help with high altitudes, especially for towing?

Are there any ways to improve high altitude performance?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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The stock airbox is a cold air system, it draws air from the fenderwell. The K&N is actually a warm air system because it's open under the hood.

A programmer with a good set of custom tunes would help.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 08:36 PM
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In short.no....you loose 2.5 hp for each 1000 elevation because the oxygen content slightly reduces.......that's why if you go into high altitude it takes your body about 2 weeks to acclimate......the only way to overcome this is to install a turbo or blower.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 09:16 PM
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It isn't just the thinner air. It's the lower atmospheric pressure. Atmospheric pressure is what pushes the air into the cylinders when the pistons travel down. Less pressure means less air getting into the cylinder. Then the computer reduces the amount of fuel injected based on inputs from the oxygen sensors.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2016 | 12:18 AM
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Haven't had that problem with my Ecoboost..
 
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Old Nov 23, 2016 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
The stock airbox is a cold air system, it draws air from the fenderwell. The K&N is actually a warm air system because it's open under the hood
Originally Posted by beechkid
......the only way to overcome this is to install a turbo or blower.
Bingo! Sorry, but there really is no other option to overcome altitude.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 10:54 PM
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Here is the formula for a naturally aspirated vehicle.
HP Loss = (elevation x 0.03 x horsepower @ sea level)/1000

It is less for force induction, but how much will depend on a few things.
Mcstiff on another forum says it well:
One thing to remember is that a turbo is not rated for a specific psi.

Turbo efficiency is measured against flow at a specific pressure ratio. Altitude requires a higher pressure ratio to maintain the same flow and this commonly pushes the turbocharger to a lower efficiency island. Lower efficiency raises heat.

Another thing to consider is that the efficiency of the intercooler is reduced because of lower air density; again increasing heat.

Lastly, a cubic foot of air in Denver contains fewer molecules of oxygen. This means that to burn the same amount of fuel, basically making x hp, as at sea level the turbo has to flow more air. Heat again.
 
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