Are K&N Air Filters Worth It? By KNF
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It is supposition that more media = more filtration.
- Don't use it for respirator mask media when entering a burning house.
Was there something else you were trying to show with this test ?
I only have 70K miles on the '06 with a K&N filter, the '01 is still going with the JLP washable media filter on it ( I can say works better than factory ).
Try to do that with factory filters....
I love how some will pick apart aftermarket filters, as if factory filters are the end all.
If factory is end all for you, great stick with 100% stock, nothing wrong with doing that.
Just don't try to pass off 1 test and fine print circled as proof of limitations or problems.
That is trying to use conjecture and supposition as facts.
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Exactly. I'll rely on my real life experience over all the negative theory.
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oiled big holed filters = waste of money
Tested the "oiled reusable filter" in an actual OEM engine induction lab. We tested flow percentage over free flow (no filter), amount of dust intrusion (what got pasted the filter), filter load at 10% flow loss and time to 10% flow loss failure.
The oiled filter flowed 1.83% better then Factory paper at the start of test.
The oiled filter allowed 133% more dust intrusion then the Factory.
The oiled filter reached the 10% flow loss 6 times faster then the Factory. (Not because it picked up more dust, it had significantly less surface area).
You can buy marketing space on the side of any race vehicle, doesn't mean you product works or is worth dam.
I laugh when I see a K&N sticker on a truck (especially if it's a Chevy or a Dodge). Selling to the stupid works every time.
I run a factory paper in my F150, 265,000 miles and still going strong.
The oiled filter flowed 1.83% better then Factory paper at the start of test.
The oiled filter allowed 133% more dust intrusion then the Factory.
The oiled filter reached the 10% flow loss 6 times faster then the Factory. (Not because it picked up more dust, it had significantly less surface area).
You can buy marketing space on the side of any race vehicle, doesn't mean you product works or is worth dam.
I laugh when I see a K&N sticker on a truck (especially if it's a Chevy or a Dodge). Selling to the stupid works every time.
I run a factory paper in my F150, 265,000 miles and still going strong.
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Tested the "oiled reusable filter" in an actual OEM engine induction lab. We tested flow percentage over free flow (no filter), amount of dust intrusion (what got pasted the filter), filter load at 10% flow loss and time to 10% flow loss failure.
The oiled filter flowed 1.83% better then Factory paper at the start of test.
The oiled filter allowed 133% more dust intrusion then the Factory.
The oiled filter reached the 10% flow loss 6 times faster then the Factory. (Not because it picked up more dust, it had significantly less surface area).
You can buy marketing space on the side of any race vehicle, doesn't mean you product works or is worth dam.
I laugh when I see a K&N sticker on a truck (especially if it's a Chevy or a Dodge). Selling to the stupid works every time.
I run a factory paper in my F150, 265,000 miles and still going strong.
The oiled filter flowed 1.83% better then Factory paper at the start of test.
The oiled filter allowed 133% more dust intrusion then the Factory.
The oiled filter reached the 10% flow loss 6 times faster then the Factory. (Not because it picked up more dust, it had significantly less surface area).
You can buy marketing space on the side of any race vehicle, doesn't mean you product works or is worth dam.
I laugh when I see a K&N sticker on a truck (especially if it's a Chevy or a Dodge). Selling to the stupid works every time.
I run a factory paper in my F150, 265,000 miles and still going strong.
They are contradictory to the tests published to date.
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Sorry
Sorry SScully,
These test were done by a major Design and Build company who does Air Induction systems for most of the major car companies around the world. They don't normally post any results on the Web as the car companies pay them for the design work and testing they do exclusively for them. Don't forget: their are Lies, Dam Lies and Lab Results. I putting my two cents on your sales pitch.
These test were done by a major Design and Build company who does Air Induction systems for most of the major car companies around the world. They don't normally post any results on the Web as the car companies pay them for the design work and testing they do exclusively for them. Don't forget: their are Lies, Dam Lies and Lab Results. I putting my two cents on your sales pitch.
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Sorry SScully,
These test were done by a major Design and Build company who does Air Induction systems for most of the major car companies around the world. They don't normally post any results on the Web as the car companies pay them for the design work and testing they do exclusively for them. Don't forget: their are Lies, Dam Lies and Lab Results. I putting my two cents on your sales pitch.
These test were done by a major Design and Build company who does Air Induction systems for most of the major car companies around the world. They don't normally post any results on the Web as the car companies pay them for the design work and testing they do exclusively for them. Don't forget: their are Lies, Dam Lies and Lab Results. I putting my two cents on your sales pitch.
Sounds like taking an opinion as fact in my book.
Sure I'll believe that real soon. You are right, there are lies, damn lies and lab results. Lab results that cannot be posted are damn lies, until proven other wise.
Let me post my double secret probation results in the next post
Conjecture and BS presented as fact is just that conjecture and BS
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Absolutely not. Unless you don't give a frogs fat *** about your motor. If that's the case, use one, -along w/Fram everywhere else.
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FWIW: from my experience with performance cars and vehicles (ex: GT500, 911, M3, 350Z) I've found that you can't simply change one element, there is really no point. It has to be part of a plan. For example, SCT Tuner + Intake + Exhaust. Doing parts independently really gains you nothing and putting an intake on specifically, or a filter for that matter, really offers you nothing without tuning a vehicle. My opinion comes from years of track, dyno and other build experience. This is all my opinion..so take it for what its worth. 
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Yea, the only REAL filter, - more less an improved media filter that follows the OEM design, - from Amsoil. I run one and they're quite a bit better. Nano media.
I haven't seen those for the 04 + yet. I bet they have them by now.. (?)
I haven't seen those for the 04 + yet. I bet they have them by now.. (?)