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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Thanks for then link! The bench flow measurements basically confirm what I've been saying, you won't get any more air flow by removing the snorkel, just reduced velocity.This is due to the engine only pulling a maximum of 473 CFM, and the OEM intake flowing 621 CFM. Bottom line, you could use a 8" pipe for an intake, and you wouldn't get any more air than the OEM setup.





I also agree with Jim on his comments on K&N air filters!
What you failed to point out is the ability of the Gotts and silencer removed to flow more at 656.83 CFM. Yes we can't shove more air in to a NA motor, but gains are made by reducing restriction. The small inlet is good for all the effects you talk about at lower CFM draw, but when the draw increases this point becomes a restriction. This is why with air filters to see "how dirty" they are we measure it with vacuum restriction gauges. Aftermarket intakes can flow stupid amounts of air (usually with less filtration but that's another topic), so by having the ability to flow more there is less restriction at the top end of the motor's needs. It's been proven on the dyno time and again that the mod can produce gains, so focusing on one principle in a system that combines several factors and principles is near sighted.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by otto457
What you failed to point out is the ability of the Gotts and silencer removed to flow more at 656.83 CFM. Yes we can't shove more air in to a NA motor, but gains are made by reducing restriction. The small inlet is good for all the effects you talk about at lower CFM draw, but when the draw increases this point becomes a restriction. This is why with air filters to see "how dirty" they are we measure it with vacuum restriction gauges. Aftermarket intakes can flow stupid amounts of air (usually with less filtration but that's another topic), so by having the ability to flow more there is less restriction at the top end of the motor's needs. It's been proven on the dyno time and again that the mod can produce gains, so focusing on one principle in a system that combines several factors and principles is near sighted.
I'll say it one more time! You can use a 8" pipe for an intake, which will flow 4K CFM, and the engine will still only pull 473 CFM. So, you won't get any more air removing the snorkel!


With the CAFE standards today, ALL vehicle manufacturers design their intakes to be as efficient as possible.
 

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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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I'll say it one more time! You can use a 8" pipe for an intake, which will flow 4K CFM, and the engine will still only pull 473 CFM. So, you won't get any more air removing the snorkel!


With the CAFE standards today, ALL vehicle manufacturers design their intakes to be as efficient as possible.
I specifically said there wouldn't be any more air, less restriction. Yes there comes a point (just like on the exhaust side with the scavenging effect) where there is too big, but changing it to a 3" diameter over stock only brings gains. You cannot refute the gains.
at the efficient as possible. Yes they pay a great deal of attention to CAFE, but they also have to worry about acoustics for the consumer. Just like on the exhaust side, there's gains to be had from the stock configuration. The stock system is efficient, but if the stock setup was as efficient as possible there would be no forums talking about modifications that actually gain power.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Who crapped in his Wheaties.....
 

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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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I think you quoted the wrong guy 88, he's for the cause
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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I think you quoted the wrong guy 88, he's for the cause
Naw, 88 is against everyone!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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That's right, especially after he soiled his pants yesterday!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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Who crapped in your Wheaties.....
Nobody did, I'm just having fun

 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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well we have won i guess!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Nobody did, I'm just having fun

sorry about that....I editted my post...
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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That's right, especially after he soiled his pants yesterday!
nope....but I survived.....
 
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Naw, 88 is against everyone!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:08 AM
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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the gotts mod is proven to be an epic fail!!!!!! Rip 'em off boys!!!!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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the gotts mod is proven to be an epic fail!!!!!! Rip 'em off boys!!!!
cant tell if sarcasm, or just being a proven idiot.
 
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