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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Personally, I think you'd be better off getting tunes to work with the intake you got.
Same here.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Windsor
I just looked up the parts for the air intake assembly for a 5.4 at Tasca and you can purchase all new components for ~$335 without the air filter. Personally, I think you'd be better off getting tunes to work with the intake you got.
Thanks everybody for the quick replies. I'm ignorant on many levels, but more specifically when it comes to tunes. What all is required to get the tunes? From what I've read it seems I need to purchase a tuner, then have custom tunes created as the "canned" tunes are not effective. Is that about right?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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I think when you order a tuner, you can get custom tunes with it. You may have to add $60 per custom tune with your order. At least that's the way I understood it. I never went thru with it, rather, looked into it.

Yea, Windsor and others who have done it would know.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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If you want to do it on the cheap, look for someone selling a used SCT programmer in the classified forums. You should be able to find a used Xcal2 for around $200. They pop up pretty frequently, just make sure you get one that is unlocked. Generally a turner is locked to a vehicle unless it was returned to stock. If it's locked, only 'SCT can unlock it and they charge a fee to do it. Stay away from a locked tuner unless it's priced accordingly (read practically free).

You could contact Justin at VMP Tuning and find out if he has a transfer function developed for the Volant air intake. If he has one, he can e-mail you tunes to correct the MAF transfer function and include general improvements in the tune, if you want to stick with regular fuel. For an increase in power, you would need to run premium fuel, so you might want to do some research in the programmer forum. You could also check with other tuners, but Justin has a decent turn around.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
Right, but that's not a Volant problem. That's a 3 valve. That's if you refferring to a 3" vrs a 3.5" which isn't Volant specific, rather, size specific. Being that the 3.5 WILL run the 3V lean. Correct?
Yes and no......
Relocating the slot style MAF out of the air box and into a tube is causing altered readings read by the pcm.

Volante is and is not responsible for the truck to have the tendency to run lean but yet they might not have done ENOUGH r+d before putting the product on the market...

Volante is not alone either.....
K+N
S+B
Banks
JLT
Etc etc etc.....

3" piping is actually easier to tune for than the 3.5" piping.....in a n/a application the bigger the pipe gets after 3" the slower the air moves past the slot style MAF. Plus then figure out the MAF is relocated also...

You can't really blame Ford either for putting in to lean of a tune.....they were just trying to get maximum efficiency and appease the EPA at the same time. They never thought someone was going to alter the air intake tract.....
 
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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I have the entire OEM intake with a K&N drop in filter from my 05 5.4 FX4 if you're interested, PM me an offer.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 88racing
Yes and no......
Relocating the slot style MAF out of the air box and into a tube is causing altered readings read by the pcm.

Volante is and is not responsible for the truck to have the tendency to run lean but yet they might not have done ENOUGH r+d before putting the product on the market...

Volante is not alone either.....
K+N
S+B
Banks
JLT
Etc etc etc.....

3" piping is actually easier to tune for than the 3.5" piping.....in a n/a application the bigger the pipe gets after 3" the slower the air moves past the slot style MAF. Plus then figure out the MAF is relocated also...

You can't really blame Ford either for putting in to lean of a tune.....they were just trying to get maximum efficiency and appease the EPA at the same time. They never thought someone was going to alter the air intake tract.....
Right! Since you put it that way.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 01:00 AM
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