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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Performance parts??

What else are people doing to 2004 f150 5.4 3v's to get more power out of them without spending alot of money? I wanted a supercharger but I dont have that money and I cant find any used ones cheap, and you cant make one off a lightning fit can you?

Mods now:
-sct programmer with custom 91 octane email tune
-K&N cold air intake
-Electric fans
-Cat back straight pipe
 
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Long tube headers
True dual exhaust
Gears
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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A good tune and lower gears will give you most umph down low, aside from a blower.
headers and exhaust are only good at high rpm. Don't do a thing at 2000 to 2500 rpm where these trucks work. In fact, you will probably loose bottom end at lower rpm.

If you want sound, keep your stock pipe and change to a muffler with less baffling in it. That will give you a nice sound without hurting you down low.
If you go with true duals, keep the pipe small like around 2 inch on each pipe. Use an X or an H pipe with it. 2.5 inch used in a true dual setup is to big. I have made that mistake before. I won't do it again. lost bottom end grunt.

The long and the short of it is that the exhaust on these trucks is not the weak link. It flows plenty good at the low rpm levels that we drive these things. If you want to improve performance, you need to either put on a power adder, or retune the computer to adjust the fuel and timing tables to give you some extra kick. Lower gears is also a good way to get better low end feel out of it. The next thing is to break into it and change out the cams and port and polish the heads. But that seems a bit impractical to me.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by F 1Fiddy
A good tune and lower gears will give you most umph down low, aside from a blower.
headers and exhaust are only good at high rpm. Don't do a thing at 2000 to 2500 rpm where these trucks work. In fact, you will probably loose bottom end at lower rpm.

If you want sound, keep your stock pipe and change to a muffler with less baffling in it. That will give you a nice sound without hurting you down low.
If you go with true duals, keep the pipe small like around 2 inch on each pipe. Use an X or an H pipe with it. 2.5 inch used in a true dual setup is to big. I have made that mistake before. I won't do it again. lost bottom end grunt.

The long and the short of it is that the exhaust on these trucks is not the weak link. It flows plenty good at the low rpm levels that we drive these things. If you want to improve performance, you need to either put on a power adder, or retune the computer to adjust the fuel and timing tables to give you some extra kick. Lower gears is also a good way to get better low end feel out of it. The next thing is to break into it and change out the cams and port and polish the heads. But that seems a bit impractical to me.
That pipe size is too small. You run the risk of choking out the engine with it that small. 2.25" is the absolute smallest diameter pipe I would recommend.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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^ I was waiting for a speech about back pressure in that post...
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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You can do underdrive pulleys fairly cheap if you do the work yourself.

http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...talogno=527374
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:14 PM
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^ Under drive pulleys are not for daily drivers IMO.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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^Why's that....enlighten me, maybe I'm missing something.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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It changes the ratio of everything that is turned by your belt. For instance, your alt. It will not crank out as many amps with an under drive set up.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Hmmm....not sure bout those in particular however, they are "Street versions" and should work fine with the charging system.

But I haven't done the mod, so cant say for sure.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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IMO, pulleys should only be used on a truck with no sound systems or any mods that draw in a lot of juice.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 4.6 Punisher
IMO, pulleys should only be used on a truck with no sound systems or any mods that draw in a lot of juice.
That I do agree with....some of my buds set-ups are huge power pigs, drawing more than a household dryer. Hehehe
 
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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I've been running underdrives on my truck for 2 years now. The amp in my truck is 800 watts for 2 10" subs. I am also running dual electric fans. I have a LOT of draw and my battery/ charging system has held up fine.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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I ran underdrive pulleys for a while with no negative draw backs...



the only reason they came off was so I could install the supercharger
 
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Hmm, well they suck on a fox mustang with the stock alt...
 
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