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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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S&B Intake

Hey everyone. I see a lot of good stuff about the S&B Air Intakes. I have a 2003 Supercrew 5.4. From what I've seen on the S&B website, the S&B for the 04-08 models are enclosed. But the 97-03 models look like the exact same kit as K&N, Summit, etc... It appears they have a "heat shield" and then the filter is open on the fender side...

Does anyone have a S&B for these years? If so, is it fully enclosed? Or is it as described above like the K&N and others?

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Mark
 
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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ive got one for the 97-03 years and its just the heat shield, not fully enclosed. I love it tho.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Check out the Volant

Mark,

I had the same issue, don't like the open breather CAI, so I bought a Volant on Ebay. Only closed CAI I could find for my 2000 5.4.

Check it out..... http://www.jegs.com/i/Volant/959/19854/10002/-1

Good luck,
Shane
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Forgive the potential ignorance...

What's the advantages/disadvantages of the open and closed breathers?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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cstanek -- there are two primary concerns some folks have with the open intake systems:

- The open systems with the heat shield draw a substantial amount of their air from underneath the hood, where normal engine operation creates a very hot environment, thus defeating half the purpose of a cold air intake. The enclosed systems draw most of their air from a hole in the fender wall, which logic would dicatate is much cooler air than is found under the hood.

- The fear that open systems will be prone to trouble because of the level of moisture, dirt and even downright mud that can be present under the hood during certain operating conditions. I've always thought this to be a drawback to these types of systems as well, although it was not lost on me that '08 Mustang Bullitts came from the factory with an open type intake system. It seems to me that FoMoCo wouldn't have used this type of intake if this was a realistic concern....???

The thing that makes it difficult is that the whole intake/tuning world is kind of mysterious -- lots of marketing hype and opinions on which one is better, but very little real data proving the benefits of one system over the other -- at least as far as I have seen. This leads me to believe that the relative benefits of one type of system over the other are fairly minor.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ddellwo
cstanek -- there are two primary concerns some folks have with the open intake systems:

- The open systems with the heat shield draw a substantial amount of their air from underneath the hood, where normal engine operation creates a very hot environment, thus defeating half the purpose of a cold air intake. The enclosed systems draw most of their air from a hole in the fender wall, which logic would dicatate is much cooler air than is found under the hood.

- The fear that open systems will be prone to trouble because of the level of moisture, dirt and even downright mud that can be present under the hood during certain operating conditions. I've always thought this to be a drawback to these types of systems as well, although it was not lost on me that '08 Mustang Bullitts came from the factory with an open type intake system. It seems to me that FoMoCo wouldn't have used this type of intake if this was a realistic concern....???

The thing that makes it difficult is that the whole intake/tuning world is kind of mysterious -- lots of marketing hype and opinions on which one is better, but very little real data proving the benefits of one system over the other -- at least as far as I have seen. This leads me to believe that the relative benefits of one type of system over the other are fairly minor.
well said. thanks
 
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