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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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An intake does draw more air into the motor thus causing the A/F mixture to lean out some, correct?
yes it definatly does lean it out. but your fuel trims compensate to bring the A/F ratio back to where it was before the intake was installed. this is the reason they say to disconnect the battery after installing an intake, to reset KAM which stores the rememberd fuel trims. im just trying to help you guys out here...
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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An aftermarket intake WILL lean out the engine, and your CEL will NOT save you when operating in open loop at WOT.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Paralyzer
yes it definatly does lean it out. but your fuel trims compensate to bring the A/F ratio back to where it was before the intake was installed. this is the reason they say to disconnect the battery after installing an intake, to reset KAM which stores the rememberd fuel trims. im just trying to help you guys out here...
I know exactly what it does, you aren't getting my point, the factory tuning can only do so much. The system was only designed to compensate for height elevation changes not custom air intakes.

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An aftermarket intake WILL lean out the engine, and your CEL will NOT save you when operating in open loop at WOT.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:06 AM
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An aftermarket intake WILL lean out the engine, and your CEL will NOT save you when operating in open loop at WOT.
i already stated that. but it will not run lean enough to do any damage. your just not getting AS MUCH power. its not "unsafe"
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Paralyzer
i already stated that. but it will not run lean enough to do any damage. your just not getting AS MUCH power. its not "unsafe"
Really? 15:1 isn't unsafe?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Paralyzer
i already stated that. but it will not run lean enough to do any damage. your just not getting AS MUCH power. its not "unsafe"
Volant told me that it would NOT cause a lean condition...and would increase power. You say that it will not cause a lean condition, but not get more power.

WHere the hell is Jbrew. He the guy who is supposed to know his chit...Wonder what he says?

All you guys make strong points. I am still kuntfused...
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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Why then, did tuners warn that 2004 and early 2005s were in a near lean condition from the factory and an aftermarket intake could be an engine killer without ever throwing a code?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hwm3
Really? 15:1 isn't unsafe?
Found this earlier...

This ratio is 14.7:1, meaning 14.7 parts of air for every 1 part of fuel. Running an engine at this particular air/fuel ratio helps to minimize emissions and maximize fuel economy, but this air/fuel ratio is generally not safe to run at high RPM and/or engine load conditions
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Why then, did tuners warn that 2004 and early 2005s were in a near lean condition from the factory and an aftermarket intake could be an engine killer without ever throwing a code?
It's a conspiracy to sell more tunes and programmers !!

Originally Posted by Shinesintx
Found this earlier...
We're talking about WOT so it'd be very bad for the motor, like Wiki says even.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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also an edge without custom tuning allows you to increase WOT fuel..
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Paralyzer
also an edge without custom tuning allows you to increase WOT fuel..
My post whoring is working wonderfully on my post counts 2000, here I come
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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my truck has been on the scope many times...and i can assure you its not running lean even at WOT im at 13:1
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bluejay432000
Why then, did tuners warn that 2004 and early 2005s were in a near lean condition from the factory and an aftermarket intake could be an engine killer without ever throwing a code?
i already said custom tuning was nesessary on 2004s that ran lean from the factory..
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Paralyzer
my truck has been on the scope many times...and i can assure you its not running lean even at WOT im at 13:1
Factory tuning?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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My '05 was running 15:1 at WOT with an AF1 and the factory tune. Custom tuning brought it to ~13:1.

Like I said before, you'll likely be fine while operating in closed loop, but in open loop at WOT the CEL will not warn you of a lean condition.
 
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