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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Replace upstream O2 sensors??

Hello all, I have a question concerning replacing my upstream O2 Sensors. I recently had my truck tuned by Troyer Performance and one of the recommendations from them was to replace my upstream O2 sensors. I bought the Bosch sensors like Troyer had suggested. I've taken my truck to a couple of places and they don't recommend me replacing them since my truck is not reading a code or has any problems so there is no need to replace them. Should I just go rent the tool and replace them myself?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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the tool question...

From what I've seen on my '92 5.0 which only has the one sensor, you should be able to get to the sensor with a normal spanner (wrench) but everyone keeps talking about using a special tool, I presume it's some sort of deep socket?

Any reason not to use a normal wrench if it'll work?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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The nut to tighten the sensor down is VERY thin so attempting to tighten it from the side with a wrench looks as if that could really be tough to do. I havent looked at the sensors that are currently on the truck but I can imagine they are rusted and will be tough to loosen. I think like you had mentioned above, the "tool" must be some sort of deep socket.

I don't know much about o2 sensors but I have been reading a lot. I've found in some sites that replacing the o2 sensors on OBD-II vehicles is not recomended as part of preventitive maintenance. I also found that if I do change em, I could possibly get 10% increase in fuel economy. I also found that if I do change em I could take the risk out of damaging my converter or even my trucks computer since a worn out sensor will not set off a code but will not work right and could damage things.

My truck has a total of 4 o2 sensors, I paid 100$ for the 2 upstream o2 sensors so I'm gonna replace them and see how it goes. Just don't know much about em.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Sensors tend to gradually get lazy and degrade a bit over time. You may not get a ode, but your sensors may not be functioning optimally.

I replace mine regularly, typically about every 40 - 60K miles, as a general rule of thumb. just the upstrem ones, not the downstream ones as they aern't critical for fuel management - they only tell the ECU if your cats are working/present.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jordan not Mike
Sensors tend to gradually get lazy and degrade a bit over time. You may not get a ode, but your sensors may not be functioning optimally.

I replace mine regularly, typically about every 40 - 60K miles, as a general rule of thumb. just the upstrem ones, not the downstream ones as they aern't critical for fuel management - they only tell the ECU if your cats are working/present.
That makes sense since that is what MikeT said to replace as well. I'm gonna give it a shot this weekend. Thanks for the advice.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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I did mine about a month ago ... I do spend a lot time reading here and Mike T does give a lot of good info ... Mine never gave me any codes telling me that there was a problem but, I did notice that after I changed them my MPG went up a little.

You are going to need a 22m crows foot (summit raceing) and a universal to make the job easier... The drivers side was easy ... as for the passanger side it took a litte longer and I had it broke loose and didn't know it
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Is this the socket needed to replace the sensors? http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

It's the only one I see on the site

Thanks,
Jerry
 
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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That would be the one .... I did the drivers side with a wrench but when you do the passanger side that tool comes in handy
 
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Many thanks!
 
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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O2 Wrench

I replaced my upstream sensors. I bought a O2 sensor wrench from Advance Auto for $14.00.

The had it on the self.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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I just used a regular 7/8 (i think) wrench. It wasn't that hard, but I did remove the transmission dipstick tube. It is held on by one tiny bolt. (8mm socket I think)

I think it's a waste of time if you don't have any problems. My original O2's had 160,000 miles on them, and when I replaced them, my mileage stayed the same.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Do the Job the Easy way

Remove the wheels and the plastic inner fender wells. About 6 screws and 5 minutes per side.

With the fender wells removed the sensors are out in the open and you can remove them with a 7/8 or 22 mm box end wrench. Plus the connectors are easy to disconnect.
 
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