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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 05:21 PM
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I too was thinking about the whole "Y" pipe replacement thing and went to talk too a guy that does nothing but exhaust, and he said leave it alone. Instead, I removed the 2 long converters (I have a total of 4)and replaced the area with straight pipes and damn does it sound good. It has more punch and has a throatier sound. This guy showed me the honey comb crap inside the converter and how this is more restrictive then the stock "Y".
Kinda like running the 100 yard dash and at the finish line only being able to breath through a straw. Try this first and you will be happy. He also recommended removing the stock exhaust and replacing it with the Flowmaster exhaust.

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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 05:28 PM
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Just remember that removing an emission control devise is illegal. It may not be enforced in your state by an inspection but, by federal law it is still illegal. I have been in the exhaust business for 20 years and this is not a joke. The shop doing the work can be in for a huge fine and so can the owner. Plus at resale or trade in you can be made to reinstall these converters at your expense. They are not cheap. Try to do cat back mods. They are legal an can give you almost the same effect.

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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 05:40 PM
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Hey robpaul, would the modifications to the Y be OK? Since it is "technically" after the cats?

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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 05:46 PM
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Try replacing the "y" with a "X" pipe. the crossover that this creates increases torque. Also the Spintech Muffler is a better design. It vortexes the exhaust causing it to scavange the exhaust through the cats so there is less back pressure in the intire system. I put this system on my 2000 Expedition and the truck runs great and has a nice sound.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 06:39 PM
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Anything after the converters is ok. The feds state that you cann't change the exhaust config at all but they will almost never slap you for anything behind the cats. I just bought a 99 F150 Lariat last week and one of the papers I had to sign said that I would not mess with the emissions system.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 10:21 PM
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Who made you sign papers? Probably 90% of us can't remove our secondary CATS because their is either a second set of O2 sensors in them, or after them. Their no need anyhow, once the "Y" is installed, and you're running a true 3" setup, so long as the stock muffler has been removed. As far a mufflers go, pick your favorite, and sound preference.

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Old Jun 26, 2001 | 12:18 AM
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The dealership had papers provided by the State of Florida saying that I had both not tampered with the emisions on my trade in and that I would not mess with the ones on my new toy. I know from being in the industry that the laws are pretty tough but this is the first time I had seen these also. Guess that way if they really want to break your "____" they have you for signing.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2001 | 09:37 PM
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I didn't. The o2's are before it and after the converters that were removed.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 12:27 AM
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jvangel,
How did you get around the O2 sensors.


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Old Jun 30, 2001 | 08:23 AM
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Think about it folks, the "Y" pipe makes the most sense.

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Old Jul 1, 2001 | 12:35 AM
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Y pipe and X pipe, completly different. X pipe is what youwould use on a dual (or H pipe)

Y pipe is replacing a piece of the OEM exhaust.

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