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Old Jun 29, 2001 | 03:33 PM
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Welcome SuperCrewGirl to the forum, Your asking a question that a year and a half ago I could pretty much answer.That answer would e "GO" for it.
I had an 00 and put true duals on, but after 8 months of a new truck,just sitting in my driveway and playing Fords games, I finally
got a "trade back"in Feb this year.

Now this is the way I see how Fords thinking goes, my new 01 has bigger y pipes with a damper(weight/balancer) on it and Ford is
looking to get out of ANY type of warrantee work it can, and Believe me, I've been there to see it. So I'm staying with the single inlet/2 out and wait and see. JMO
You'll get a lot of different answers to your question, that's what this forums all about.
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Old Jun 29, 2001 | 08:32 PM
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The true duals are one of the most satisfying mods I have done! I would not hesitate to do it again! Here is the information I collected when I was thinking about getting duals installed:

The Law
Federal law sets forth requirements for warranties and contains a number of provisions to prevent vehicle manufacturers, dealers and others from unjustly denying warranty coverage. With regard to aftermarket parts, the gist of the law is that warranty coverage cannot be denied simply because such parts are present on the vehicle, or have been used. The warranty coverage can be denied only if the aftermarket part caused the malfunction or damage for which warranty coverage is sought. Disputes in this area usually boil down to arguments over facts and technical opinions, rather than arguments over interpretations of the law.
Federal Warranty Laws
1.The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of this law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle makers brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided. The law states in relevant part:
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name....” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
2. Clean Air Act Warranty Provisions (42 U.S.C. S 7541 (C) (3) (B))
The federal Clean Air Act requires vehicle makers to provide two emissions-related warranties -- a production warranty and a performance warranty. The production warranty requires the vehicle maker to warrant that the vehicle is designed, built and equipped so that it conforms with emissions requirements at the time of sale. The performance warranty requires the vehicle maker to warrant that the vehicle will comply with applicable emissions requirements as tested under state vehicle emissions inspection programs for the warranty periods specified in the law (for model year 1995 and later vehicles, the warranty is 2 years/24,000 miles for all emissions-related parts and 8 years/80,000 miles for the catalytic converter, electronic emissions control unit and on-board diagnostic device). The performance warranty is conditioned on the vehicle being properly maintained and operated.
The Magnuson-Moss Act states that vehicle manufacturers may not refuse warranty repairs under the Clean Air Acts performance and defect warranties merely because aftermarket parts have been installed on the vehicle. The only circumstance under which the vehicle manufacturer can void the emissions warranties is if an aftermarket part is responsible for (causes) the warranty claim.
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act may also be helpful. Under this federal law, you can sue on breach of express and implied warranties. The main point of interest here is that the Act says warranty coverage may not be conditioned upon the use of only the vehicle manufacturers parts unless the parts are provided free of charge. In other words, use of a non-carmaker product should not void your warranty unless it caused the problem.
Knowledge Isn't Enough
Just knowing the law may not be enough. What happens if a vehicle dealer denies a warranty claim? If the claim is in reference to a part governed by the Clean Air Act and you believe the claim was improperly denied, a call to the EPA at (202) 382-2640 would be in order. The EPA maintains a staff who looks into situations where vehicle manufacturers have failed to honor warranty claims.
If the failure to honor a claim involves the new warranty, and it appears that the vehicle dealer improperly denied the claim, the matter should be raised with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) at (202) 326-3128. The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law. Between these two federal agencies there should be sufficient authority to work out any warranty problems.


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Old Jun 29, 2001 | 10:34 PM
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YIKES I need a law degree to read all that! LOL, just kidding....

BTW, welcome to the board! You'll be addicted before you know it.

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Old Jun 30, 2001 | 12:52 AM
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Question DUAL EXHAUST

What does adding dual exhaust do to the factory warranty?????
 
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Old Jul 2, 2001 | 01:34 PM
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Thanks everyone for all the input
 
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Old Jul 2, 2001 | 02:49 PM
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SUPERCREWGIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you one and the same?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2001 | 11:55 PM
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The bottom line on exhaust mods is that you will no longer have any warranty on any part of the exhaust system only. To deny warranty work on anything else, the dealer must be able to prove that the exhaust modification caused the problem you are experiencing. That does not mean they won't try! Hope this helps!
 
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