03 clockspring issue

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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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03 clockspring issue

forever i've had a code 33 airbag light, and decided to replace the clockspring to correct it. I called the dealership and they informed me that there were two versions, and the one i needed for my HD fit the Lightning, HD, and Heritage. I installed it tonight and the airbag light cleared itself. However, I still don't have the use of my horn or cruise control, and now the turn signals don't automatically click off. do the Harleys use the same clockspring as a regular F-150? and if so, will a clockspring correct the turn signal issue? (they worked fine with the defective module)
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Not sure what you got, I checked 3 online parts places, and they only list 2 clocksprings

Clockspring, f150, w/o cruise control - f150 1997-03, heritage 2004 - F150 1997-03, HERITAGE 2004

Clockspring, f150, w/cruise control - f150 1997-03, heritage 2004 - F150 1997-03, HERITAGE 2004

If the part it marked as 2004 Heritage, then I think that is the same clock spring as the 2004 L, which should be the same across the MYs ??

If your CC stopped working, I would think they ordered the wrong one, or it is not installed correctly.

Did you have the CC recall done ?

Try the CC self test to see what is up with the CC

The problem with the turn signal not auto canceling could also be an install issue ?

These are all SWAGs until we get some info back.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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DTM for CC test

Activating Test Mode

To enter the HEC Dealer test mode, depress and hold the instrument cluster SELECT/RESET button, turn the ignition switch to the RUN position, and then continue pressing the SELECT/RESET button (5 seconds) until tESt is displayed in the odometer. The SELECT/RESET button must be released within 3 seconds of the odometer tESt display to begin the dealer test mode.

Depress the SELECT/RESET button to advance through the following steps until dtc is displayed. Depressing the SELECT/RESET button will display any stored continuous DTCs before proceeding to the next step.

GAGE
Activates gauge sweep of all gauges, then displays present gauge values. Also carries out the checksum tests on ROM and EE. If the gauge sweep is inoperative, INSTALL a new instrument cluster.

All segments illuminated
lluminates all odometer segments. If any odometer segment is inoperative INSTALL a new instrument cluster.

bulb
lluminates all micro-controlled indicators and LEDs. Install a new indicator or LED as necessary.

r
eturns to normal operation of all micro-controlled indicators and LEDs and displays hexadecimal value for ROM level. (used when requesting assistance from the hotline). If alternating flashes for FAIL and ROM level are displayed, INSTALL a new instrument cluster.

EE
Displays the hexadecimal value for EE level (used when requesting assistance from hotline). If alternating flashes of FAIL and EE level are displayed replace instrument cluster.

dt
Displays hexadecimal coding of final manufacturing test date (used when requesting assistance from hotline).

dtc
Displays continuous DTC's in hexadecimal format. Pressing the SELECT/RESET button will display any DTCs stored before proceeding to the next step.

enG
Displays the English speed in MPH. Speedometer will indicate present speed within tolerances. Display will show 0 if input in not received. If input is invalid for one second or more, or if speed is 0.

m
Displays the metric speed data in kph. Speedometer will indicate present speed within tolerances. Display will show 0 if input in not received. If input is invalid for one second or more, or if speed is 0.

tAc
Displays the tachometer data received from the PCM via the SCP network within tolerances. Tachometer will indicate present RPM. Display will show 0 if input is no received, if input received is invalid for one second or more, or if engine RPM is 0.

FUEL
Displays the code (0-255) for the fuel sender input to the HEC. The fuel gauge will display a filtered fuel level value. This filter will keep the pointer from moving suddenly or erratically.
255 open send +/- 0
232 full stop +/- 0
215 Full mark +/- 10
178 3/4 mark +/- 8
138 1/2 mark +/- 7
93 1/4 mark +/- 5
41 E mark +/- 4
54 Low Fuel (0-59)
0-18 short (0-20 max)

OIL
Displays the code (0-250) for the oil pressure switch input to the HEC. Oil pressure gauge will indicate present oil pressure. Normal oil pressure (greater than 6psi) will display a value between 000 and 176. A low oil pressure or an inoperative engine oil pressure switch (less than 6 psi) will display a value greater than 176.

dEGC
Display of engine temperature in Degrees C input from cylinder head temperature sensor.
49 C "C" mark
60 C Normal band start
120 C Normal band end
-40 C No SCP message for 5 seconds

bAtt
Displays the code (0-255) for the battery voltage input to the HEC. Battery voltage gauge will indicate present battery voltage.
93-102 6.2-9.1 volts, low voltage
115-124 8.5-10.7 volts, Normal band start
215-225 15.8-18 volts, Norm band end
230-241 16.9-19.1 volts, high voltage

rhEo
Displays the present decimal rheostat dimming input, 0-255 (used when requesting assistance from the hotline)

rhi
not used

rhS
not used

rho
not used

Cr
Displays the current RUN/START sense input. Display will show -h for high input with the ignition switch in the START position and -L for low input with the ignition switch in the RUN position.

PA-PE7
not used

GAGE
Repeats the display cycle

Source: Helms 99 manual.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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you're absolutely right about the clockspring being the wrong one (found out via pics posted on NHTOC of the difference). the dealer sold me the clockspring that fits an 01 HD, and my truck takes a regular F150 w/cruise clockspring. i know the CC recall issue has been dealt with as both my 99 and 03 have the same fix from Ford. if the CC still doesn't work when i swap out the clockspring this time, i'm going to use the CC self test method to figure it out. thanks for the detailed description of the process.

-Dustin
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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I'm looking for a clockspring part number for my 2003 XL (w/o cruise). I only find 1L3Z14A664AA which is clockspring with cruise.
 
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