Anyone know how to override the keyless so that it will work while the car is on and running? I had a 96 Town car that would do it, but my navi won't. Just wondering if anyone had tried it successfully

 

I got locked out of my recently purchased 2001 F150 yesterday because I left it running(it was cold out) took the key fob with me and locked it. Came out minutes later and couldn't get in. I was very disappointed but luckily my brother came with my extra key. I hope someone responds to this that knows how to defeat it. My Jeep doesn't have this issue.

 

Somebody, Anybody, Bueller?

 

AFAIK, the remotes being locked-out with the engine running cannot be defeated. It's all a part of the GEM and RAP modules, and I've yet to figure out an easy way.

That being said, look at installing the keyless entry key-pad on the door handle. It's an easy mod, and relatively inexpensive, and the key-pad is active even with the engine running. Plus, no key or fob is necessary should you need to get in at any time.

-Joe

 

Do the keyless pads work when the vehicle is running also? Not sure if they do since they send out similar radio frequency. Thanks for your help though

 

Yet again, unfortunately, there isn't keypad install for the 98. 99 and up only. The only thing you can get for a 98 is basically of stick on that transmits the signal like the keypad, like svh said

 

I have a 2003 F-150 and I took off the key fob from the key ring. I can keep the truck running while i run in the gas station to get a drink. I can lock my truck and when i get back to it i can unlock it while its running. I have no issues. I have a Lariat so it has the keyless entry on the door as well and that works also when i have it running and locked. I dont know?

Brian

 

I am going to order one and try it out and let you know. I have been told by others that have it that it works. The wireless pad that is

 

The wireless pad won't work.... It works just like a remote, but instead of hitting one button, you have to hit five in the right order for it to transmit the signal.

I thought the Expedition and Navigator had the keyless entry pad right from the get-go? Maybe not?

-Joe

 

Navigator didn't get it till 99

 

This was what I found in the service manual:

Soooo....... Try pulling fuse #8 (5A) from the Junction Box. That's the switched input to the RAP module, and that may be what disables the key fob with the key on..... it will also kill the interior lights and the radio, but for testing purposes, it's easier than cutting the wire. I'm thinking that you might be able to fool the RAP moduel into not knowing the key is on, and it might still un-lock the doors.

So, pull the fuse. Stick the key in the ignition, start it up, and see if the remotes work. If so, then you'll want to clip the BK/PK wire where it runs into the RAP module under the driver's side of the dash. If that doesn't work, we'll have to try something else.

-Joe

 

I tried this last night with my 05 screw with wireless key pad and it worked with the truck running.

 

The '04 and '05 use a Body Security Module.... they're a completely different beast. I assume he's talking about a 98 Navigator (based on his username). If not, that info might be helpful too.

Oh, and if your 'wireless' keypad on the door came from the factory, it's not wireless.

-Joe

 

Mine is not from the factor, mine is the remote stick on. Looks like crap imo. The factory ones are built into the handle.

 

Well the stick on keypad definetly didn't work but I found a good deal on it and I have a few uses for it so i will install it anyway. Just made a spare key at the hardware store to keep in my wallet if I ever lose my key or lock them in it with it running again.