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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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http://www.dansdata.com/hotchips.htm
 
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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Angry chips work

the only thing i got from that artical was an explenation of what "pinging" really is. i found that interesting because i was a bit hazy on it before hand. other than that... yea...

chips work, its as simple as that. i could go on and find you a million testimonials and dyno sheets but it would do no good if you think this artical is valid.

But the operative word here is "can". Not "will". Upgrade chip makers are fond of phrases like "up to 10% more power". Buyers should bear in mind that "up to 10%" includes "0%".
show me someone who has had 0% gains from there superchip. i would like to meet this person. he probably had a custom chip that was designed for shift firmness alone...because thats the only time it will add nothing.

The standard, factory ECU settings aim to ...
... handle low-octane budget-priced fuel,
exactly! most of the powergains are because it is now programed for the higher octane levels. it will still get gains from 87...but not nearly the gains it will see from premium 93 oct. which is what most chips are programmed for.

alright...i hope i was right on my facts. when mike gets back from sema he should have a field day with this artical and show how much these things DO do for our trucks. he will know all the technical information that should be able to convince the hard headed.
 

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Hi Silver

Yes, that site makes for interesting reading. Its been around for some time. I read it long ago...I think it may have even been pro/con'd here?

Anyhow...i didnt agree with some of their opinions...felt more comfortable with Mt/PP and schip...lots of R&D on our trucks.
I also ordered it here which helps to support this site. JMO

Good luck....OT
 
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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Old timer,

Well they didn't eveng get the ping thing right. As defined by The Dictionary of Automotive terms. Pinging: Metallic rattling sound produced by the engine during heavy acceleration when ignition timing is too far advanced for the grade of fuel being burned. Preignition: Fuel charg being ignited before proper time. Detonation: Fuel charge firing or burning too violently, almost exploding.
BTW if you are having Preignition problems switching to a colder plug may help.

They just want to sell their product but Powerchip doesn't yet have a chip for the F150 4.6 or 5.4

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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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Very little factual information contained there, and of course, nothing specific, just lumping everything together generically, no testing or real facts, etc. Most of the people on this site know more than was expressed in that article, and I loved JMC's response on their "pinging" comments, which was right on as usual (you go, JMC).

I'm not going to bother with this, it's really just too elementary, basic, generic, and incorrect in several basic aspects. Some things they say are true, but only a few, this is basically about a 6th grade level book report in terms of it's informational value.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 02:09 AM
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I think maybe you guys thought I was trying to undermine the superchips reputation. I only posted it because I thought it was interesting that someone would have that floating around on the internet. I guess I will be more careful with what I post.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Hey Silver

I didnt take it as a flame. This is still the "chip bd"

I had seen that before...and as reminded by JMC...they still do not make a chip for our engines.

I need more "ram" like my pc....

Good luck...OT

btw....dont get shy now
 
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 05:55 PM
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No flame intended here. Sorry if it came off that way, it was not intentional. Just letting everyone know what is what. Would you rather I not post a reply?

Regards

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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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Good point JMC.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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Hi S&B,

I echo what JMC said. We never took that as any kind of "dig" at Superchips (or anyone else) from you in that post. Some of us took exception to some of the content of the article itself, but we're not shooting the messenger, so to speak, so please don't think that at all, as we sure didn't think about it that way!

It's the kind of article that has little actual value because it's extremely generalized & paints everyone in the industry with the same brush & color. That is not only inaccurate, it also does a great disservice to a lot of good people involved in this industry at any number of companies. There is nothing specific, there is absolutely no testing at all, etc., just a lot of rash generalizations with an obvious negative slant. It's no different than saying something silly like, all Republicans (or Democrats) are bad just because they happen to vote Replublican (or Democrat), for example.

Nobody took anything "personal" or as any kind of bashing, etc. that I'm aware of, so please don't think that, & thanks for your post!
 

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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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I did enjoy the poke at the Rice Boys!

But as far as the artical goes, it is right about how chips work but I have a chip and can tell you it makes a diffrence. Yes you have to run the 91 octane but the artical didn't mention the automatic transmission shifting delay remover. This alone is worth the cost of the chip in my opinion.
 
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