which one is the best one to use with the 2002 4.2 v6? and how much do they run and where can i get one....


how much increase can i expect from it as far as hp and torque?

also how does it affect your gas mileage?

and how the truck shifts?


Thanks,

 

Search this forum, by far the best chip to use is a Superchip. Look for any posts from Superchips_Distributor. His posts contain any info that you could need.

This is a recent post from him:

 

all right...thanks...

how hard are they to install?

-Chris

 

I know the newer trucks are easier than mine was. Mine took 1 hour to install. The new ones 97 + I hear take about a half hour.

 

Hi Hazard269,

In the post of ours that Beastie quoted in his response, you can find the raw data there describing all that the Superchip does that no other chip has, the power gains, performance improvements, etc. The max improvement in 25 hp & 31 lbs./ft. of torque on a stock 4.2 V-6, and the average improvement in performance is about a half-second off your 0-60 & 1/4 mile times.

In terms of what the Superchip will do to improve the shifting in the automatic transmission models, the shifts are nicely improved by removing the various shift delays & transitional retards that reduce engine power (sometimes drastically) during upshifts and downshifts, making the powertrain much more eager to respond to input from the driver. The shifts will also "feel" better, and will be quicker & firmer but only in direct correlation to the amount of throttle opening you give it. That way, the vehicle still shifts smoothly on light throttle, but by the time you are at full-throttle the upshift is noticeably snappier, as it should be under full power. It's a linear progression in shift firmness, the more throttle you give it, the harder it shifts. This way you don't have problems losing control from a too-stiff upshift in the middle of a turn when it's raining, for example, and anyone (wife, girlfriend, son, daughter, etc.) can still drive the vehicle.

The potential for fuel mileage improvement is there as well, though that is something that is just a byproduct of the performance tuning, and is not the primary purpose of any performance chip. You will have to use premium gas with any performance chip that actually increases power significantly, so you won't actually spend less money for gas, you may spend a little bit more overall, but no more than $100 for each 10,000 miles driven, for most peoople not mroe than maybe $2-$3 a week. Most people see highway mileage gains of 1-2 mpg, but don't expect much if any improvement around town, or anytime you're speeding up and slowing down, etc. the potential for mileage improvement is simply a byproduct of the increased spark advance used on part throttle, so your actual mileage will depend primarily on how you operate and maintain the vehicle, and the quality of gasoline you feed it.

You can order your Superchip by clicking on the link just below in our signature line, that will take you directly to our F-150 Online Superchip ordering system.

Also, please feel free to give us a call if you'd like to go over this in more detail, or if you'd like to go over any other aspect of improving the performance of your F-150. As F-150 platform performance specialists, we can improve any aspect of your F-150's performance, for anything from daily driving to towing to racing.

Good luck with your truck,

 

Hows the superchip flip chip custom program going? I sent the single program chip back to ya...has it arrived yet? Hopefully you got the custom chip worksheet that I faxed ya and will be sending my flip chip soon I'm getting my 4.10s and Trans-go shift kit in thursday.

Eric Usher

 

well do you have to use premium gas?

also what will be the avg. gain with a dual cat back exhaust and stock air intake with a K&N air filter?

is ther emuch more of an advantage by replacing the whole air intake?

and i been reading somewhat abou tth custom chips or something or another about that...what does that mean does that mean if i have a certain air intake and a certain exhaust that there are better chips that suit that opposed to a chip that would be used on a stock f150?


Thanks...

 

Custom tuning comes in 2 flavors. You have the "stock" custom tuning, in which Superchips tunes the chip specifically to your computer code (standard issue on all Superchips). Then you have true custom tuning, in which PPI takes info specific to your truck and what you have done to it (i.e. new fuel injectors, forced induction, gears, etc.) and tunes the fuel curve to those specific modifications. Unless you have a computer-related issue, like codes from headers or new, higer pound fuel injectors, there really isn't much of a reason to have custom tuning. Forced induction, however, is a must. In many cases, the stock fuel curve is nowhere near agressive enough for forced-induction, especially No2. If you're only planning to do the "big three" mods (Intake, exhaust, chip), you'll be perfectly fine with the "stock" tuning.

I'm sure Mike will answer more in-depth to this as soon as he can. In the meantime, hope this helps!

-Flea

 

is the forced-induction like superchargers and what not?

thanks

 

Superchargers, turbochargers and No2 are all forms of forced induction. Oh, and yes, you do have to use premium gas.

-Flea

 

well then damn...i dunno if wanna do the chip now

also would it be almost just as good if i kept the same stock air intake and just put a K&N in it ? or is it really that much better if i get a MAC intake or something?

-Chris

 

I hear all the descriptions of a CHIP helping an automatic's shift firmness, etc......but what about the 5speeds? I've got a V6 5spd and will get a chip. Does SUPERCHIP put into consideration all the mods you've added onto your truck, or does the mods matter?....

HELP?!

 

I was upset about using premium gas, but the power bonus is definately worth it. Also I now get 2-3 mpg better than i did before, and I am driving it harder. Im sure most people wont get htis big of a gain, but I did!

The chip also helps 5speeds. Even though you have a manual, there are still delays and retards that the chip removes. <-- So I have heard. Mods depends on what youve done. Some mods you can do are cat-back exhaust, intake, electric fans, underdrive pulleys,.. If you goto larger fuel injectors, MAS, or other things of that nature, you will need to get your chip reburned to compensate for those mods.

 

Hi Hazard,

All of these details are best discussed over the phone, as one answer always leads to numerous additional questions, etc., so don't hesitate to call us to really go over this properly.

Briefly...................

Yes, of course you'll have to use good quality premium gas with our full performance program in the Superchip, that is the most basic aspect of improving performance from any gasoline engine, always has been, for going on 80-100 years now. That is also teh most basic aspect of performane tuning in general, which is why performance chips require premium gas. In terms of the actual costs, they're a lot less than you think, as the maximum impact is going to be that you'll spend, at most, $100 more for gas for each 10,000 miles you drive the truck with the Superchip using premium gas. For most people driving 20,000 miles a year, they spend anywhere from $2 to $4 a week more for gas to run the Superchip, and some spend even less. One of the benefits from the Superchip, when you keep your foot out of the gas, is a bit more efficient engien operation, so you generally pick up a little bit of mileage, primarily in cruising situations. It's not going to offset the entire cost of premium gas of course, but assuming the national average of a 20 cent per gallon price delta between 87 & premium, you won't spend more than $2-$4 a week more for gas driving 15,000 - 20,000 miles a year, and that's a drop in the bucket to get the performance improvement of the Superchip.

However, if that bothers you, we can in fact make you a custom Superchip to use on 87 octane gas, or you can do what a lot of others have done, and go with our 2-program Superchip Flip Chip, which will have a performance program for each level of octane, available at the flip of it's attached toggle switch.

So no matter how you want to run that engine, we have the tuning solution for you. Keep in mind that the power gains on 87 octane are going to be smaller, maybe 5-8 hp as opposed to 20+ hp on premium.

No, a filter change is never going to get you anywhere near the power gain of a proper intake, and if you want the intake that actually makes the most power on that truck, it's the Air Force One, which we also carry. We also offer combo deals on the Air Force One intake and the Superchip. Figure you'll see about 3 to maybe 4 hp from a drop-in low restriction air filter element in your 4.2 V-6 (the best for that is the S&B filter), versus a 12 hp gain on the 4.2 V-6 from the Air Force One intake kit.

The same basic fact applies on the exhaust side by the way, a muffler change will not do anywhere near what a good cat-back exhaust setup will do for performance.

Custom engine tuning to compensate for modifications is not required for simple changes like an intake kit or a cat-back exhaust system, or for things like electric fan conversions, underdrive pulleys, etc.

To go over what modifications can benefit from custom tuning, what modifications *have* to have custom tuning and all the details, give us a call at our number listed below, & we'll be happy to go over all of this with you so you can give it some thought.

 

Hi V8Killah1,

That's one of the most frequently asked questions about the Superchip, and the answer is that you get the same benefits from the Superchip in the manuals, too. Your engine gains exactly the same amount of power from the Superchip that the automatic transmission models do.

You also have transitional spark retards that are removed, yes, even the manuals have transitional retards & other power-reducing features in their powertrain programs during & just after shifting that hurt the performance. This started in the late 80's with the 5.0 Mustangs with manual trannys, even way back then Ford was pulling 12-15 degrees of timing during & just after shift events (which the PCM detects on manuals too) as well as changes to fuel delivery, all of which serve to artifically reduce power & hurt performance.

The only real difference in what the manual transmission vehicles get from the Superchip versus the automatics is simply the fact that because there is no automatic transmission, there are no automatic transmission shift characteristics to alter, and that's it. Otherwise, the benefits from the Superchip are basically identical, you get the same horsepower and torque gains & everything else to properly optimize the powertrain program. You'll get the same power gains, and see nice improvements in your acceleration times & overall driveability and performance from the Superchip, regardless of which transmission.

If you'd like to go over this in more detail, please feel free to give us a call, we'll be happy to go over this or any other aspect of performance for these vehicles with you!