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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 04:48 AM
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What mod next?

I just purchased my SuperChip 2 days ago, recieved it today and I could tell a defianant "seat of the pants" when driving it. I currently have the below performance mods...

AF-1 Intake
Catback Dual Exhuast with Glasspack
SuperChip

Should I go with the Felxalite fans or another brand of fans?

Would changing my glasspack out for a Magnaflow muffler increase my HP/Torque dramatically? Am I losing a lot with having my glasspack installed?

I dont currently want to have to make any changes that will cause me to re-burn my chip. Im just looking for something that will get me closer to that 300HP mark.

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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 08:09 AM
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Hi Ken,

I have the chip already along with a K&N drop in..I ordered the duel electric fans from Mike on friday, I'll post my thoughts when they are installed. I think the next mod I look into is going to be underdrive pulleys....It takes time before I put out the cash, I read these and other forums trying to see how products are written about over time and then I call Mike @ Performance. If you bought your chip from him, you know your getting straight talk....
 
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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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Hey ScrewLoose,

How do you like the SChip in your Screw?
 
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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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I like the Superchip very much, I installed it christmas morning and right away I could notice just a bit more umph.....but the greatest thing is the change in shift feel, it shifts ........more......i guess, more positively if thats a good word. I took it out a couple of weeks ago for a test, i hated it and put it right back in. I think if your looking for a bit more power and better feeling transmission you'd love it. If you think it will turn it into a race truck...........get a lightning
 

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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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Do you leave it in during service at a dealer? No I don't expect to make my Screw into a L.....The only future mods I may plan on are a chip, AF1 FIPK...and since I already have a ravin exhaust, maybe some other bolt on for a few extra HP.

I will hopefully be adding a chip before the winter, and maybe some new tires.

Thanks again for the feedback.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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Hi Braboin,

No, you do not want to leave any performance chip in place on any FoMoCo vehicle when going in for service, whether you're under warranty or not. If they need to do any kind of diagnostics or troubleshooting for any reason, you always want the PCM in stock trim for that. Depending on what hardware each individual Ford dealer is using, they may not even be able to communicate with the PCM at all with a performance chip in place, so for this reason, remove the chip prior to service whether you're under warranty or not.

In our documentation, we go over how to prepare the vehicle to go in for service, so this is one of many things we cover in detail in our docs for the Superchip module.

Just FYI.................
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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Hi 4X4PWR,

We can also help you on electric fans, as we have our own kit for these F-150's that uses more heavy-duty components than the Flex-a-Lite or other setups, with much better fully enclosed reserse-S shape fan blades and heavier motors, controllers, etc. Flex-a-Lite uses the older straight & exposed fan blades & much lighter motors, etc. Our setup uses dual 16" fans and features the ability to use any temperature of thermostat as well as fully independent operation of each fan & even full redundant capabilities, as each fan has it's own controller.

With regard to what kind of result you'll see from changing your present muffler over to a Magnaflow, that depends on the exact internal configuration of that glass pack as well as the rest of the system, but figure that you should pick up another 5 hp or so. If you changed over to the complete Maganflow cat-back system, you'd probably pick up about 10 hp or so over your present exhaust. Now what we don't know here is just how much power your current exhaust system change has added, most cat-back setups average about 10-12 hp, a few as much as 14, and then the Magnaflow cat-back system adds 20-21 hp on the 5.4.

With the Magnaflow you gain straight-thru design, as opposed to what many others use, baffles, chambers, etc. I don't know the internal configuration of your specific glass pack muffler, but it's a safe bet that you will pick up *some* power and certainly torque, exactly how much is hard to say without more details. If you get a chance, give us a call & we can go over that with you.

Generally, if you have the 5.4 motor, with the Superchip, Air Force One intake and the Magnaflow cat-back system those 3 mods alone (using exactly those specific parts) can put you up at the ~300 hp mark, as you're starting with 260 hp, so it's easy to get to 300 hp. If you have a 4.6 (and I don't remember, forgive me!), then it will take significantly more modificatiosn to get to that 300 hp mark of course.

Electric fans certainly will help with power and fuel mileage, you pick up about 14-15 hp on average from them on the "regular" F-150's as well as another 1-2 mpg fuel mileage, just as a by-product of getting rid of that 10-12 lb mechanical fan the engine no longer has to accelerate that dead mass.

If you'd like to spend a few minutes with us on the phone, we can easily map out a plan so you can hit whatever level of power you want in the most cost-effective way. That might be helpful to you so you can give it some thought in making your various decisions on future modifications, etc., a lot of people call us for that kidn of assistance. Just FYI...............
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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Thanks Mike

Thanks for the info regarding servicing the truck, I felt that it would always be a good idea to remove it, just didn't know it was that serious an issue. Good info.

I look forward to hearing from you towards the end of this week, per our call on Monday.



Best regards,

Bart Raboin
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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Do the headers and put a super charger on it as you next 2 mods
 
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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Thanks Mike.

I appreciate your input Mike. It most defiantly helps.. I am currently running the 5.4L motor. I have a cat-back exhaust with a dynomax glasspack. The pipe is aluminized and custom bent. I have a 4x4 that weighs in at 4,400 lpbs.

It does fine for a daily driver. However, I am going to be hauling some snow machines and would like some more HP and Torque. I have been looking into the fans for a while but I dont know if they will acomplish what I want.. I also play around time to time and I was looking for some more power off the line.. Say, up to about 40mph or so? Is there anything that would help improve this without having to spend 5k on a supercharger. I am not looking to gain 100HP or anything. But another 20 would be nice. I also would like not to spend a whole lot of money in doing so... Say around $300 max.

I have not dyno'd yet either, but I bet I am pushing really close to the 300HP mark. I also noticed that 97-98 can only push around 275HP before you have to upgrade your fuel injectors and fuel pump. Am I at that point where I should do so? I dont want to purchase the fans and not see an increase because I did not upgrade my fuel parts like I was supposed to.

I would just like a little more UMPH off the line. I am not concerned in the top end speed because I usually dont drive any faster than 70mph max. Any type of information or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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Hi Kendall,

Yes, the electric fans would be an excellent choice, as you gain horsepower, torque and fuel mileage as well, it's very hard to go wrong there. You'll notice the improved throttle response immediately, to me it's most obvious in getting the vehicle moving. Though the additional power is there all the time, it's most noticeable moving out from a standstill, as you no longer have the engine having to accelerate that dead mass of weight up to rpms along with everything else hanging off the front of the motor, it's completely gone, and that sure helps.

By the way, in my post you'll see that we mention all the 1997 & newer F-150's have the same size fuel injectors regardless of engine size, but the earlier trucks use a smaller capacity fuel pump, and *that* is why they have to upgrade the fuel pump sooner than the '99 & up F-150s do, and sooner than the injectors themselves have to be upgraded.

To go over any of this in more detail, just give us a call & we'll be happy to.
 
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