I was almost certain I was going to get a superchip. Then I started reading some threads saying that a flipchip with 87 octane gas only gets 5 more hp over stock. I live in a small town and our gas station only has 87 octane and the closet station with 91+ is 20 miles away so itd be a pain to have to drive that far to get gas everytime. So my question is, does it get the 28 rwhp as posted on the Peformance Products website with 91+ octane gas or is that with 87?

I may get one anyway because of the improved shifting and speed limiter cut off, but I was looking forward to the extra hp and torque.

Thanks,
mozy

 

You will not see max gains with 87 octane. I believe they can do a little with the 87 octane program for performance but to take full atvantage of the Superchip the higher octane would be necessary.
You would want to go with the Superchip flip chip. With this you could use 87 most of the time, if it's too far to the good stuff. When you are in an area where 91+ octane is available, you can flip the switch and reap the benifits. I have not used anything less than 93 since I put a chip in about a year ago. I can't imagine feeding my truck anything less.
I think in the long run you would find that even using 87 it would be worth it to have the Superchip. Ford makes a great truck. They don't program the PCM to make all of us happy.

Good luck!
Tom

 

Hi Mozy,

In our dual-octane Flip Chip, the difference in performance between the stock factory program and what you get with the Superchip running on it's 87 octane program is certainly worthwhile overall, for those who need to have teh ability to run on 87 octane gas when necessary. Yes, the increase in absolute *peak* horsepower is a minimum of about 5 HP or so at the wheels, but what has to be remembered is that there is also more power available at any throttle posiiton, at any rpm. In other words, that does not mean that you will only gain 5 hp anywhere in the power band; there are areas where you can pick up as much as 12-15 more horsepower. It's just not an increase of 12-15 horsepower over previous *peak* power, that's all. In addition to more power all the time, you will notice the vehicle is more lively below 3000 rpm especially on part-throttle, where a lot of driving is done, as there is more room for improvement in some areas of the program than others. You also still have all the other benefits, the removal of the various delays & retards that slow down the powertrain's response to drive input, improved shift characteristics, top speed limiter removed or raised to where you'll never be able to hit it, etc.

Then when you want maximum power, you fill it up with premium and flip the switch.

Another thing that needs to be pointed out is the the gains are not 28 horsepower at the rear wheels, those gains are rated the same as your stock factory power rating so you have a direct comparison, so it's rated SAE Net at the flywheel. On a 5.4, the maximum rear wheel gains are about 23 horsepower.

I hope that info helps, & please feel free to give us a shout if you'd like to go over this in more detail, etc.

 

Thanks for your replies.

Ive decided to get the chip anyways but, I do have one more question, does it cost anymore to have it burnt for my specific truck?

I will probably be contacting you within the next two weeks Mike to get a flip chip.

mozy

 

Mozy,
As you can see Mike (Performance Products) gives some of the best information you can get. We (the members of this site) like to try to pass on what we've learned in the time we've spent here. You will always want to read all posts so you can compare what you are being told. Mike is hands down the one with the most Superchip experiance so chances are he will give you the best info.
I believe what you are asking is can you get a chip programmed specificly for your truck? Well what I've learned is that the Superchip is programmed for each truck specificly. We are required to give our computer code when ordering. This is so you have a program designed for that code. It doesn't cost more, and with a lot of research about all the chips one will learn that code specific is really the only way to go!
There is a ton of stuff to learn about how to make our trucks go better. If you hang around here enough you will find a bunch of it!

Have fun!
Tom

 

Hi Mozy,

As Wittom pointed out in his response, each Superchip is programmed to match the exact software revision (computer code, as we call it) in each individual vehicle's ECU (powertrain computer), we do not do any "generic" tuning. This tuning will work well with bolt-ons like drop-in aftermarket air filters, airbox elimination kits (Air Force One, etc.), underdrive pulleys, converting to electric cooling fan(s), & cat-back exhaust systems. This does not cost extra, either in the standard single program Superchip, or in the 2-program Superchip Flip Chip.

If you have modifications that affect engine tuning enough to require further custom programming, like an aftermarket MAF (mass airflow meter), supercharger, nitrous oxide, ported heads, etc., then yes, that does involve an additional fee for custom programming in the standard single program Superchip, but not in the Flip Chip that you mentioned wanting. Any custom programming needed at time of purchase is *included* in the cost of the Flip Chip, actually making it the cheapest way to get custom programming.

It's just a matter of what specific modifications you have as to whether you will need any custom programming beyond the Superchip already being made for your specific vehicle's computer code.

Also, should you ever do major modifications later on that require custom programming, you can always have your Superchip updated with any custom programming required for a small fee.

If you'd like to go over all the various types of modifications that will cause a need for custom programming/tuning, give us a quick call & we can cover that with you in detail.