How much?
How much?
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I think it depends on who you got it from. Some chip sellers don't charge for reburns (to a point on the number of times) if you bought the chip from them. They shouldn't charge you if you bought it from them and you have a problem (detonation, shift problems, etc.) with it.
I had a SuperChip that was purchased from one tuner then reburned by another, $75 for the reburn.
I had a SuperChip that was purchased from one tuner then reburned by another, $75 for the reburn.
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Thanks Norm, that is exactly correct, neither we nor anyone else can discuss pricing here, it's clearly against the policies of F-150 Online that each and every person here had to agree to in order to be alloowed to register to post on these message boards, whether it's a Vendor or an individual posting here the rules are the same.
OK ladies & gentlemen, I'm going to explain, just briefly, a few things and offer a little perspective, and please take this at face value, do not take any offense at what I am going to impart here, as the air needs to be "cleared" a bit given the inaccurate & inappropriate information posted by some in this thread.
This thread is an excellent example of why those kinds of policies that the Webmaster of this site implemented long ago are necessary. I'm sorry to say that some of our own customers have posted not only incorrect information, but also information that applies only to those individuals, that very well may not apply to anyone else's particular needs or situation. One individual posting in this thread, because of his numerous errors of omission and the additional mechanical changes he made that we were not told about until long afterwards, forced us to do 6 different & completely ADDITIONAL powertrain programs at *OUR* cost chasing down problems caused by those additional changes that were in effect hidden from us. We "ate" all of that, by the way, when we had every right to, and will in the future, rest assured, charge that person custom programming fees every time we had to completely re-do his programs because of those omissions & later mechanical modifications.
The first and single most important factual error posted in this thread is the inference that all "reburns" are the same, that a "reburn" is a "reburn" is a "reburn", which is not even remotely close to correct. It all depends on exactly what has to be done & why, and there are as many variables there are there are people!
There are some situations in which a "reburn" is not charged for, such as when a customer's vehicle has had it's ECU reflashed at a dealership. Though that has nothing to do with us and there are costs to us, we do not charge anything except return shipping costs to reprogram the Superchip to once again match the changed software revision of the ECU, just for one quick example, and there are many others.
Then there are some, as when someone wants a Superchip reprogrammed for a different vehicle that the Superchip was never even purchased for, or wants a custom program for major modifications, or needs a change to a custom program because of additional modifications, for which there would be a charge.
There is no such thing as all "reburns" being the same, and anyone needing or comtemplating such services is advised to ignore what has been posted here in this thread, and contact us directly for accurate information.
Those of you who have posted prices here are asked & advised not to do so again, as you are not only giving others information that most likely does not even apply to them, but that also knowingly violates the very policies of F-150 Online that you agreed to when you registered here to post on these boards, & we thank you in advance for your understanding & cooperation.
The Superchip, like any performance chip, like any commercial software package for that matter, is sold to work on 1 vehicle (or 1 computer), in a specific configuration range with regards to mechanical modifications, as is required to tune the powertrain properly. If changes from it's original configuration are needed to make it work on a different vehicle, then of course there is a charge for that, and a very small one! It is far less than the cost of a new Superchip, and a mere pittance compared to the value to replace the factory powertrain program. If somebody has to have custom programming work done, that takes a lot of additional time & effort, and others should not have to pay for work that they do not need by being charged a higher price to everyone across the board, so of course there is a charge for that, and only for those who need that custom work done, just as it should be, as is the only *fair* way to handle these matters.
What has to be remembered here is that you do not get free software upgrades to the next revision with your Microsoft software, or your Quicken software, or your Symantec Systemworks software, and that is what we're talking about here, *software*. We're all paying next to nothing for the chip itself, that's just a cheap piece of hardware. What we're all paying for is extremely precise R&D performed at great expense using extremely sophisticated & expensive hardware, human & physical resources, by powertrain engineers employed by Superchips, who has spend untold millions of dollars to be able to deliver a better product than the automakers themselves do, and you get all of that for a very low cost.
Anyone who needs or wants to know what it costs to have powertrain programming work of any kind done, needs to contact us *privately*, off these message boards, for accurate & correct information that applies to their situation. Anyone needing such services is advised to ignore what has been posted by others in this thread, as that information may very well not apply to you, just contact us privately for correct & facual information.
Our bests to all,
OK ladies & gentlemen, I'm going to explain, just briefly, a few things and offer a little perspective, and please take this at face value, do not take any offense at what I am going to impart here, as the air needs to be "cleared" a bit given the inaccurate & inappropriate information posted by some in this thread.
This thread is an excellent example of why those kinds of policies that the Webmaster of this site implemented long ago are necessary. I'm sorry to say that some of our own customers have posted not only incorrect information, but also information that applies only to those individuals, that very well may not apply to anyone else's particular needs or situation. One individual posting in this thread, because of his numerous errors of omission and the additional mechanical changes he made that we were not told about until long afterwards, forced us to do 6 different & completely ADDITIONAL powertrain programs at *OUR* cost chasing down problems caused by those additional changes that were in effect hidden from us. We "ate" all of that, by the way, when we had every right to, and will in the future, rest assured, charge that person custom programming fees every time we had to completely re-do his programs because of those omissions & later mechanical modifications.
The first and single most important factual error posted in this thread is the inference that all "reburns" are the same, that a "reburn" is a "reburn" is a "reburn", which is not even remotely close to correct. It all depends on exactly what has to be done & why, and there are as many variables there are there are people!
There are some situations in which a "reburn" is not charged for, such as when a customer's vehicle has had it's ECU reflashed at a dealership. Though that has nothing to do with us and there are costs to us, we do not charge anything except return shipping costs to reprogram the Superchip to once again match the changed software revision of the ECU, just for one quick example, and there are many others.
Then there are some, as when someone wants a Superchip reprogrammed for a different vehicle that the Superchip was never even purchased for, or wants a custom program for major modifications, or needs a change to a custom program because of additional modifications, for which there would be a charge.
There is no such thing as all "reburns" being the same, and anyone needing or comtemplating such services is advised to ignore what has been posted here in this thread, and contact us directly for accurate information.
Those of you who have posted prices here are asked & advised not to do so again, as you are not only giving others information that most likely does not even apply to them, but that also knowingly violates the very policies of F-150 Online that you agreed to when you registered here to post on these boards, & we thank you in advance for your understanding & cooperation.
The Superchip, like any performance chip, like any commercial software package for that matter, is sold to work on 1 vehicle (or 1 computer), in a specific configuration range with regards to mechanical modifications, as is required to tune the powertrain properly. If changes from it's original configuration are needed to make it work on a different vehicle, then of course there is a charge for that, and a very small one! It is far less than the cost of a new Superchip, and a mere pittance compared to the value to replace the factory powertrain program. If somebody has to have custom programming work done, that takes a lot of additional time & effort, and others should not have to pay for work that they do not need by being charged a higher price to everyone across the board, so of course there is a charge for that, and only for those who need that custom work done, just as it should be, as is the only *fair* way to handle these matters.
What has to be remembered here is that you do not get free software upgrades to the next revision with your Microsoft software, or your Quicken software, or your Symantec Systemworks software, and that is what we're talking about here, *software*. We're all paying next to nothing for the chip itself, that's just a cheap piece of hardware. What we're all paying for is extremely precise R&D performed at great expense using extremely sophisticated & expensive hardware, human & physical resources, by powertrain engineers employed by Superchips, who has spend untold millions of dollars to be able to deliver a better product than the automakers themselves do, and you get all of that for a very low cost.
Anyone who needs or wants to know what it costs to have powertrain programming work of any kind done, needs to contact us *privately*, off these message boards, for accurate & correct information that applies to their situation. Anyone needing such services is advised to ignore what has been posted by others in this thread, as that information may very well not apply to you, just contact us privately for correct & facual information.
Our bests to all,