flip chip vs. gasoline cost.
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flip chip vs. gasoline cost.
This question is for Mike, but others please respond!!!
My question is,Does the increase in milage completely offset the additional cost of the premium grade fuel?
I have a 2000 f1 150 w/ Gran. MAF sensor, the K&N fipk, BBK 75mm throttle body,Modified intake, Cervini ram air, modified Y pipe, and the borla exhaust system.My next question is: Will I still get a 10%-12% increase in power after all those mods. w/ a flip chip?
My question is,Does the increase in milage completely offset the additional cost of the premium grade fuel?
I have a 2000 f1 150 w/ Gran. MAF sensor, the K&N fipk, BBK 75mm throttle body,Modified intake, Cervini ram air, modified Y pipe, and the borla exhaust system.My next question is: Will I still get a 10%-12% increase in power after all those mods. w/ a flip chip?
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Re: flip chip vs. gasoline cost.
Originally posted by peties3
This question is for Mike, but others please respond!!!
My question is,Does the increase in milage completely offset the additional cost of the premium grade fuel?
I have a 2000 f1 150 w/ Gran. MAF sensor, the K&N fipk, BBK 75mm throttle body,Modified intake, Cervini ram air, modified Y pipe, and the borla exhaust system.My next question is: Will I still get a 10%-12% increase in power after all those mods. w/ a flip chip?
This question is for Mike, but others please respond!!!
My question is,Does the increase in milage completely offset the additional cost of the premium grade fuel?
I have a 2000 f1 150 w/ Gran. MAF sensor, the K&N fipk, BBK 75mm throttle body,Modified intake, Cervini ram air, modified Y pipe, and the borla exhaust system.My next question is: Will I still get a 10%-12% increase in power after all those mods. w/ a flip chip?
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Hi peties3,
In a word, no.
It's not a gas mileage chip, there is no such thing as a gas mileage chip per se. It's a performance chip that just happens to have the *potential* for improving mileage a bit, when the vehicle owner is in a situation where he or she can keep their foot out of the throttle, so to speak.
It's very rare for anyone to pick up enough of a mileage gain from the Superchip to completely offset the additional cost of premium gas. That does actually happen for us here at Performance, but as we've always been very quick to point out over the years, that is skewed in our case because we only pay 10 cents more per gallon for premium over regular, whereas the national average is 20 cents per gallon. We use the 20 cent per gallon figure for all fuel cost estimates.
The net effect of running the Superchip on premium gas all the time, for those driving 15,000 - 20,000 miles per year, in a 50-50 mix of city & highway driving, and assuming a cost delta between regular & premium of 20 cents per gallon, is an increase in fuel cost of about $150-$200 per year, basically a few bucks a week, at most.
Your mileage with the Superchip will depend on all the same factors as it does without the Superchip, primarily how you operate & maintain the vehicle, and the energy content of the gasoline being burned.
The Superchip's potential for improving fuel mileage is merely a by-product of the increased spark advance used on part-throttle as part of our performance tuning for premium gas, along with situations in which the automatic transmission in those models so equipped can stay in Overdrive instead of downshifting due to the increased torque. The average gain in the V-8 automatic F-150's runs 1.5-2.0 more mpg, primarily when cruising, but there are some who get more, and some who see no gain in mileage, due to their driving habits and/or fuel quality.
To answer your other question, the maximum rated power gain from the Superchip on the 5.4 in the F-150 & Expedition is 28 horsepower & 46 lbs./ft. of torque. Now, in your case, with the types of modifications you have there, you are not going to see more of a power gain than the maximum rating of 28 horsepower. the mods you have are all exterior bolt-on airflow mods, there are no real engine modifications like a supercharger, or ported heads, etc., something we could gain even mopre power by tuining for specifically. You are going to need custom programming, because of the aftermarket MAF & TB (throttle body), and their affect on the engine's A?F ratios and the load signal, as well as the ram air setup. All in all, you'll see a nice gain in power, you'll get more of a performance gain from the Superchip that from any other single modification you've done so far. the Superchip will tie them all in very nicely, and properly tune the engine for all of them.
Just give us a quick call when you get a chance, & we'll be happy to go over your mods & this application with you.
In a word, no.
It's not a gas mileage chip, there is no such thing as a gas mileage chip per se. It's a performance chip that just happens to have the *potential* for improving mileage a bit, when the vehicle owner is in a situation where he or she can keep their foot out of the throttle, so to speak.
It's very rare for anyone to pick up enough of a mileage gain from the Superchip to completely offset the additional cost of premium gas. That does actually happen for us here at Performance, but as we've always been very quick to point out over the years, that is skewed in our case because we only pay 10 cents more per gallon for premium over regular, whereas the national average is 20 cents per gallon. We use the 20 cent per gallon figure for all fuel cost estimates.
The net effect of running the Superchip on premium gas all the time, for those driving 15,000 - 20,000 miles per year, in a 50-50 mix of city & highway driving, and assuming a cost delta between regular & premium of 20 cents per gallon, is an increase in fuel cost of about $150-$200 per year, basically a few bucks a week, at most.
Your mileage with the Superchip will depend on all the same factors as it does without the Superchip, primarily how you operate & maintain the vehicle, and the energy content of the gasoline being burned.
The Superchip's potential for improving fuel mileage is merely a by-product of the increased spark advance used on part-throttle as part of our performance tuning for premium gas, along with situations in which the automatic transmission in those models so equipped can stay in Overdrive instead of downshifting due to the increased torque. The average gain in the V-8 automatic F-150's runs 1.5-2.0 more mpg, primarily when cruising, but there are some who get more, and some who see no gain in mileage, due to their driving habits and/or fuel quality.
To answer your other question, the maximum rated power gain from the Superchip on the 5.4 in the F-150 & Expedition is 28 horsepower & 46 lbs./ft. of torque. Now, in your case, with the types of modifications you have there, you are not going to see more of a power gain than the maximum rating of 28 horsepower. the mods you have are all exterior bolt-on airflow mods, there are no real engine modifications like a supercharger, or ported heads, etc., something we could gain even mopre power by tuining for specifically. You are going to need custom programming, because of the aftermarket MAF & TB (throttle body), and their affect on the engine's A?F ratios and the load signal, as well as the ram air setup. All in all, you'll see a nice gain in power, you'll get more of a performance gain from the Superchip that from any other single modification you've done so far. the Superchip will tie them all in very nicely, and properly tune the engine for all of them.
Just give us a quick call when you get a chance, & we'll be happy to go over your mods & this application with you.