Has anyone used this tuner? What do ya think? Has anyone been adjusting their plugs after installing the chip and notice any difference?

 

Understand Liver is the leading HP tunealong withother products from them. Believe They hold the fastest EB in the country at around 104 in the 1/4. It would seem to me though trying to push a motor that is choked is like trying to make a 60 2 B Carbed a faster car. Without the big stuff added, Carbs & intake, highlift cam, high flow heads, tuned exhaust, 4 speed and rear end, the lil 60's peters out at 70 mph. The engine reaches its steamengine top fairly pricy, quickly, and disappointed owner goes home. Thin a 4.11 set of axles would be a better pull set up first. It puts the lil motor right in the RPM torque pull band, but sacrifices fuel mileage for torque at the wheels. To state this simply Gears make a truck. Taking car gears and trying to make a truck is not so good. A car-drag-truck sure.

 

I am currently running Livernois 93 v2 performance tune. From stock to tuned it is like driving another truck. The perfomance is better shifting is better. Just the over all driveability of the truck is great. If have any questions give Rick LeBlanc at Livernois a call 313-561-5500 ext 106. He can answer any questions that you might have. There customer service is top notch.

 

Are you useing any other mods, intake y pipe...etc..? Thanks for the info!

 

Yes I am using there high flow cats and 170 t-stat.

 

From what I hear, their work is pretty impressive. I can't personally testify about it but, I may be able to soon... We'll see.

 

It is the only tune I would even consider for an Ecoboost. I was extremely pleased with mine in the SHO.

 

How much difference did the 170* thermostat make on the tuned EB ?

 

I asked the same question to Rick at Livernois and here is the responce I got. I installed the t-stat in my truck and the truck does run cooler.



The 170 t-stat will provide the best possible coolant temps and heat dissipation from your setup along with reduced warm up times and better cold weather performance when compared to a t-stat with holes drilled in the diaphragm. We believe the 170° opening temp is the ideal balance for high performance engines, providing high flow to your radiator by mid-180 temps while still maintaining a good level of all season performance. With proper fan settings your cruising temps in cool weather will be in the 170s and in hot weather the 180s, giving those running high levels of timing and/or boost added protection against engine damaging detonation as well as maximum power output.

 

The 170 T-Stat is enough by itself to void your engine warranty assuming the engine operating temp is reduced 10 degrees or more-----it is essentially increasing the AF mixture (richer) and advancing the ignition timing- all gimicks that were used starting back in the 90's with the ECM controlled systems- by the so-called "Expert Tuners"- which led up to & including cylinder washing (excess fuel) and much more.........

run, don't walk away from anyone who is promoting this concept for a daily driver. You must also remember, these "tuners" are not regulated by ANY automotive compliance standard such as dealers, dyno shops, etc....and regardless of what they may imply or even state....you have an engine failure & the OEM identifies the fault of your "tuner" and denies warranty- you the consumer eat it...until you can prove otherwise & I have yet to see any of the "Expert Tuners" come forth and state, Yes, the oem denied the warranty as a result of this mod I sold the consumer- but we proved them wrong and the vehicle is being repaired & the consumer is being reimbursed for all related damages"...

and since the 90's there have been a lot of damage caused by many so called "Expert Tuners" including Roush....and the consumer eat it each time! Additionally, these engines have been on the market for many years in other applications- including racing- there is not a single Ford engineer who has ever promoted or concurred formally or informally the use of a "cold" thermostat is appropriate in any condition or circumstance for a daily driver.

 

Remember you're playing with fire! This is a race system for the 1/4 mile drag. Nothing wrong withthat as long as you know what you are accepting in return for a change from 99 MPH to 104 MPH. The Cool thermostat will add more moisture to the pan to dillute the oil along with more fuel in the oil also dilluting the oil. Some want to go faster. The expense be hanged. The challenge, change the turbo's, the fuel system, raise the HP pump injection pressures, the exhaust system, design an intake manifold and put in a Nascar ECU to run it all. Can the lil motR handle 700 HP? I don't think so! Good Luck though. LOL

 

I would head down to Livernois if I bought a new F150 irregardless of motor choice. These guys have been around for many years and tuned 100's if not 1000's of cars. I've tried to dig up some dirt on these guys but haven't found any....yet. I personally don't have any experience with Livernois, FWIW.

Papa/Beechkid- I respect your opinions on this topic...but your posts indicate the Livernois tuning (or any tuning) is going to end with a blown motor/tranny. Anything can happen, tuned or not tuned. I fully realize that the chance of blowing up an F150 that gets spanked and ragged every weekend surely increases, tuned or not tuned.

Maybe I'm out in left field but I'd rather have my A/F custom tuned for safety vs a generic factory tune.

I haven't read about any tuned eco's or 5.0's blowing up, have you?

 

Agreed ^.

 

I am with you. Livernois has the most tuned EB's out there. At this moment I have no knowledge of any failures with there tuning. They are not some mom and pop shop. They have been tuning for years. And if something breaks on my truck I am not going to take it the dealer and expect them to fix it under warranty.

 

1st comes the tuning fuel subject. The Factory system tests the fuel in the tank, your last fill and with the next fill finalizes the tuning. So,,, you are in a situation where the fuel isn't the same from state to state,section of the country to section of the country. So,,, one needs to take into consideration, just exactly which tune do you have. I see nothing wrong in this, if you are remaining localized, using the tune for your particular HP need. Does it function with a change in local, travel constantly allover the country? Again the system tests the sensors and performs changes to the fuel mapping over several fills I do believe. Locking the fuel system into 93 octane isn't for everyone. This has been a MOD question. I guess looking at what one can afford is the reasonable answer to this mod.