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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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SAFC I or II

Anyone ever try to hook one up to a F150 to adjust for larger injectors and pump etc?

I've used them on imports and they worked well for mild build.

If anyone has used them on the f150's how was the wiring and was it useful to you?


I realize it's not a programmer and more/less just alters what the ecu sees.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Link to the subject of the thread>>>> http://www.alamomotorsports.com/apexi/safc.html

I do see the usefulness of this product and it might be a valuable tool. From what I understand is that some additional software and monitoring equipment must be purchased to dial it in....so with that and actually comparing it to per say a programmer and custom tunes, I think I'd rather go with the programmer where as the tuner has properly written the tune with in the safety parameters of the operating environment .......
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 88racing
Link to the subject of the thread>>>> http://www.alamomotorsports.com/apexi/safc.html

I do see the usefulness of this product and it might be a valuable tool. From what I understand is that some additional software and monitoring equipment must be purchased to dial it in....so with that and actually comparing it to per say a programmer and custom tunes, I think I'd rather go with the programmer where as the tuner has properly written the tune with in the safety parameters of the operating environment .......
I'll check the link out.

Basically it lets you monitor a bunch of parameters. The nice feature is it fools the ecu in what it sees letting you adjust to get the right fuel trims.

When I used it I also had a sofware that cost $100 bux which allowed me to see real time date. By watching the short/long fuel trims you could make adjustments with the safc to get the just right.

You can usually find a SAFC for $100 and the SAFC for $150ish or even cheaper on CL. If you/I go that route I would still need the ability to see timing and fuel trims etc so you can use the safc to make adjustments.

Like I said they are usually very good for mild builds, standalone's are much better for higher end power.

A tune and programmer is good too, but I like being able to control things myself. I hate always having to order a tuen because of new upgrades etc.
I've not looked at the programmers for our trucks, but I'm guessing they have levels with pre-written power levels based on mods etc....I'd like a programmer where you can make your adjustments etc but also monitor what needs to be to make the right adjustments.

again that was on my GSX and it worked nicely. Didn't use a dyno to tune, we tuned it by regular driving on roads.


Just looking at options for a possible future project. That project would need fuel adjustments for the bigger injectors and pump.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnightride42
I'll check the link out.

Basically it lets you monitor a bunch of parameters. The nice feature is it fools the ecu in what it sees letting you adjust to get the right fuel trims.

When I used it I also had a sofware that cost $100 bux which allowed me to see real time date. By watching the short/long fuel trims you could make adjustments with the safc to get the just right.

You can usually find a SAFC for $100 and the SAFC for $150ish or even cheaper on CL. If you/I go that route I would still need the ability to see timing and fuel trims etc so you can use the safc to make adjustments.

Like I said they are usually very good for mild builds, standalone's are much better for higher end power.

A tune and programmer is good too, but I like being able to control things myself. I hate always having to order a tuen because of new upgrades etc.
I've not looked at the programmers for our trucks, but I'm guessing they have levels with pre-written power levels based on mods etc....I'd like a programmer where you can make your adjustments etc but also monitor what needs to be to make the right adjustments.

again that was on my GSX and it worked nicely. Didn't use a dyno to tune, we tuned it by regular driving on roads.


Just looking at options for a possible future project. That project would need fuel adjustments for the bigger injectors and pump.
There so much more to tuning late model vehicles though. A programmer that flashes the ECU gives you the ability to improve throttle response through the ETC settings, full control of shift points and pressures, converter lockup, and timing in all load areas. Not to mention the ability to disable speed limiters and raise rev limiters if needed. You also have the ability to properly scale for larger injectors, and to dial in the MAF curve to match whats on the vehicle, which leads to perfect fuel trims and better mileage.

Our Predator or Trinity tuners even give the end user adjustment of WOT spark, AFR, rev limit, speed limit, tire size, and a MAF curve adjustment (global). You also have shift point control. All this, plus fully capable datalogging. Any logs can be uploaded to a PC for playback using our free dataviewer software, or you can bring the laptop with you and live stream the data to the PC through the tool, and log for hours on end. there are 1000s of available PIDs when live streaming.
 
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