Ordered SuperChip on 7/3/01 and it arrived today, 7/9. Installation took 45 minutes as Mr. Troyer said.

Noticeable differences were:
1. When you first start it up after the install, it took a few extra cranks to start. After that, it starts up like normal.
2. Elimination of the slight hesitation when you start out from a stop.
3. Noticeable increased acceleration from a stop.
4. More solid transmission shifting.
5. Instant deceleration when you back off on the gas pedal. Somehow, the chip must override the throttle positioner. I was annoyed with the factory setting that only allows gradual deceleration when going downhill. To avoid overspeeding, I constantly had to brake to slow down.

I'll post MPG results after 3 or 4 tanks.

Mr. Mike Troyer.....Thank You!

 

Glad to see someone else who has had my experiance.
Be aware that the Ford computer still learns over the next 500 miles.
My mileage improved after 500 miles.
Enjoy your success! I guess you did everything correct.
Mike T. is the best!

 

Hi Area 52,

(I love that screen name)

Glad to hear you're enjoying your Superchip!

Redex made a good point too, about the adjustments made via fuel trim, that usually happens somewhere around 350-500 miles after a re-set of the ECU. This is usually transparent to the driver, though you may notice that it feels a bit stronger, and sometimes gets a bit better gas mileage as you accumulate more miles.

It's normal to have it takes an extra couple of rpms to start the engine first time after an ECU re-set, and you may also have noticed that your gauges did a full sweep to peak and then returned to zero upon that first re-start as well. Those things usually happen after a reset of the ECU on the first re-start, and then it's just as it was before, just as you commented.

Thanks for your post & have fun!

 

Hello, I know this is an old thread but what Area 52 (This is a great handle) said about the improved performance, instant acceleration, and lack of deceleration delay is exactly what I'm looking for in my (new to me) 01 Supercrew, 5.4L w/61k miles.

Can anyone tell me which chip this might be or is it custom programmed for these particular things? Also, can 87 octane still be used?

Thanks,

Bob

 

Hi Bob,

Welcome to F-150 Online!

Wow, that was an old post to dig up - You can just give us a call to go over all those details, they're talking about the Superchips that we provide.

The best performance & power gains are had by us doing our in-depth custom tuning - and can be had to a lesser extent in the "standard" Superchips products.

You can get up to speed on much of "the basics" on this by dropping by our web site at this link: http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...chips%3BFoMoCo - to read up on what's available.

What most people are using is the Part# 9100, our custom Micro Tuner loaded with 3 different custom tunes. That is what I suggest using, simply because that is what will get you the best possible results for additional power and performance, and it's a simple 10 minute plug-n-play installation. But we can do the in-depth custom tuning in either of these 3 part numbers you'll see at that link: 5500, 6600, or 9100. The other parts seen there either are not applicable for your vehicle, or are the "standard" products. The "standard" Superchips products that the late-model F-150's & Expeditions can use found there are our Part# 1100 or the 1715.

To go over this in more detail, please give us a call at your convenience, at our number listed below - we'll be happy to cover it all in proper detail with you.

Thanks for joining us here on F-150 Online, & best of luck with your truck!

 

Thank you for the quick reply. Yes this forum is a true wealth of info. And thanks for the warm welcome. I've been lurking for about a month now so I don't really feel new.

Your Superchip site is well done and did answer most of my questions. You have answered the other(s) here.

From what I can see, the 1100 chip would be an economical way to do a mild tune for daily driving and occasional towing which would also address the hesitation, deceleration, and trans issues if this is what I wanted for full time use.

BUT, if I wanted to occasionally have some real fun, the 5500, 5600, 1715, or 9100 would be the way to go. And if I ever did a serious engine mod that required a new tune then I could invest in the optional Email Update Package for the 9100 or send the 5500, 5600, or 1715 back to you for re-tuning.

Does this correctly sum up the basics of the available options?

And thanks again for your time and information!

Bob

 

Hi Bob,

I'd say that's a pretty good synopsis!

The 1100 is the cheapest way to get into a performance tune, that is correct - and a few people still do that.

However, what has to be remembered is that we are no longer doing any custom tuning in the single-bank style chips (1100), so in some ways, it's a bit of a "dead-end" solution, so to speak. Don't get me wrong, it works fine doing what it's supposed to do - it's the cheapest way to get into a "standard" Superchip performance tune, and it will deliver nice power & performance gains. But it's single bank technology (and modern EEC-V PCM's have 4 banks internally), and we do not do any custom tuning in those units any more as a result - so just remember that it's not something that can sustain a vehicle thru modifications that require custom tuning.

I advise stepping up to the 4-bank 5500 at least, as that way you've got a chip that can address all 4 banks of the PCM internally, and in which we do in-depth custom tuning that will get a substantial *additional* gain in raw power and actual performance - even on a bone-stock vehicle. So you have something that can always be updated with any custom tuning that may be required at some point in the future, for *any* vehicle using the EEC-IV or EEC-V PCM's.

Most people opt for the multi-tune products, to they can at least have a program they can still use 87 octane gasoline with. Remember, the most basic tenant of performance tuning is to tune the engine for the use of good quality premium gasoline - you are not going to get a significant power gain on low-grade 87-89 octane fuels, which is why performance chips require the use of premium gasoline, generally speaking. So most people these days opt for one of the multi-tune products, and the majority are going with the Micro Tuner - either the "standard" 1715 unit, or the 4-bank custom 9100 Micro Tuner, to get our in-depth tuning for the best power & performance gains.

Bottom line? We strongly advise using the newer 4-bank technology products - those are the 5500, 6600 & 9100. Then you've got something that you can use no matter what modifications you ever do to that vehicle, as we can always update it with any custom tuning the vehicle might ever need in the future.

 

Thank you very much, Mike; not only for me but for others that might benefit from this synopsis.

I only have few more questions for you.

Josh, a senior member on this board, has a 1715 for sale which we both have agreed on price wise. Will the 1715 need any programming modifications or can it be used straight across once Josh returns his truck to stock tuning? The Troyer site does not indicate this but a question asked and answered here may save you time down the road. Again, I ask not only for me but for anyone that might buy a used Micro Tuner in the future. If it does need additional programming, can the seller send the unit directly to Troyer and then be sent to the buyer (me) for a nominal fee? I’m sure as time goes on this issue will come up more often. I have read that the PCM number on the passenger side front door jamb has a number that directly influences the programming; in fact before an order can be made through Troyer, this is required. Or is this only with certain Micro Tuner’s?

Thanks again for taking the time and effort to help us all understand the in’s and out’s of your product line. I honestly don’t know how you find the time to do all that you do and post replies as you do. It is very much appreciated!

Bob

 

it will work fine as long as he returns his to stock- also i believe mike warrants superchips products to 2nd owners as long as the original owner purchased from him- the pcm code is for custom chips or tunes-phil

 

Thank you Mike and OpenClassPro. Due to this particular 1715 being a single-tune Micro Tuner, I have decided to invest in the 9100 for all-around flexibility. Now I just need to work on my budget a little and hope/wait for the gas prices to come down again.

Thanks again!!

 

i actually tried the 1715 tuner before i opted for the 9100 tuner- if it had as much power as the diablo- i would have went with it--now the 9100- it dropped my 1/4 mile times 4/10ths below that of the diablo!you won't be sorry-phil

 

Hi Bob,

By now, you've already ordered your new 9100 (congratulations!), but I'll go ahead and answer your questions for others who may be reading...............

The 1715's cannot be updated with any "custom" tuning - they are intended for stock to "lightly" modified vehicles. The older single-program 1715's can be sent in to the manufacturer (for a very significant fee) and updated to the 3-tune version of the 1715 - but no custom tuning in any 1715, or in any other Superchips "MAX" series of Micro Tuners.

So the 1715's can't get the kind of power or performance gains that we get in the custom 4-bank 3-program 9100 you went with, or be used with a change of the MAF meter (other than replacing a failed original MAF with another identical factory MAF), or a supercharger, or larger fuel injectors, or any other modification requiring custom tuning.

The 1715 does a fine job for what it is, don't get me wrong - there are a lot of people using them who are very happy with them - the bang for the buck value is excellent, and a 5.4 like yours usually sees easy 20+ HP gains on premium gas.

It's just a matter of what does the *best* job of adding power and performance, and what works best is what you went with - a detailed set of 3 different 4-bank custom tunes in the 9100, the custom version of the Micro Tuner. As we discussed today over the phone, we usually get another 10-12 HP over what the 1715 delivers on it's highest performance "MAX" tune in a 5.4 truck like yours.

 

I've got about 600 miles on the new superchip, and what a difference!! Fortunately I had a long trip right after I installed it, so the "learning period" only lasted about a week. I have noticed HUGE differences in acceleration, shift points, etc. but the best part----I'm getting a little over 16 mpg! This is and increase of at least 3 mpg, and I tend to drive with a very heavy foot (especially now!)

I'd recommend Troyer Performance and a superchip to one and all.

--Greg

 

Hi Greg,

The 3.0 mpg gain you are reporting is excellent - that's a bit higher than "average," though we've do on occasion get reports of gaining as much as 3.5 mpg. The overall average tends to be more along the lines of 1.5-2.0 mpg, with the occasional 3.0-3.5 mpg result - your 3 mpg gain is excellent, congratulations!

Perspective is a powerful concept - most people reporting their results back here tend to be more like yours, and report significant "seat of the pants" gains - while a few will say they don't "feel much." I have to be candid & mention that we generally advise people not to judge any performance part merely by it's apparent "seat of the pants" results - simply because these are very heavy vehicles, and some people really can't feel a 20-30 HP gain in a big 2.5 ton truck or SUV in the "seat of the pants." And of course, there is over 3000 lbs. of potential weight difference in these F-150's depending on vehicle configuration, along with the different gear ratios, tire sizes, etc. - and the most important aspect, the difference from one person's perspective to another's. So we see everything from the more common "WOW!" type of post like yours, to a few that say they don't "feel much." For those who really want to know just what the tuning actually did, we advise doing proper before & after timed acceleration testing (using something like a G-tech, etc.) to see the actual acceleration times, both on the stock tune and then on our tuning - that way they can get a good idea of just what the tuning actually did in each individual vehicle in terms of sheer "performance."

In your case, you're obviously happy with your "seat of the pants" feel, & we're glad to hear it - especially those mpg results - they're excellent, a bit above average.

Thanks for your post Greg, & best of luck with your truck!

 

Received the new 9100 last night, spent 15 minutes going over the instructions, 10 minutes installing the 87 octane tow tuning and I was impressed right away. The deceleration issue with the stock tuning is, for me, annoying to say the least. This was fixed and the truck had a little more pep in its step as well.

Well, I was going to wait a few days so I could really feel the difference between stock and the 87 tow tune but....human nature took over so I went home at lunch time and put the 91 octane max performance tune on it because I just couldn't wait any longer.

Just a few words to describe the difference; Yeehaw, Oompah, Yahoo. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about!!

Mike, great job, great product! Well worth the wait and money.

Thanks again for the advice, your time, and providing great products!