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iHellFire 11-08-2010 12:36 AM

Question about getting a programmer..
 
Alright so I plan on buying an Edge Evolution programmer but wondering if I need a CAI first.

Thanks.

Norm 11-08-2010 06:22 AM

NO. Get your tuner first. On the 04 you will want a custom tune for a CAI if you chose to get one later. 04 are notorious for lean conditions caused by CAIs.

shotgunz 11-08-2010 06:23 AM

No and in fact unless you get custom tunes (which is a good idea) you should NOT get an aftermarket (warmer-air-than-stock under-the-hood-bling) intake.

MGDfan 11-08-2010 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by shotgunz (Post 4390503)
No and in fact unless you get custom tunes (which is a good idea) you should NOT get an aftermarket (warmer-air-than-stock under-the-hood-bling) intake.

A New Acronym is born! W A S U H O O B I ! :banana: :bows:

Pronounced ... "Wass - uh - Hoobi" -or- for the syllable-challenged, "Wa - shoobi" :lol:

Warmer
Air than
Stock
Under the
HOOd
Bling
Intake

:beers:
MGD

MGDfan 11-08-2010 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by iHellFire (Post 4390421)
Alright so I plan on buying an Edge Evolution programmer but wondering if I need a CAI first.

Thanks.

Edge does not support aftermarket Wasuhoobi's. They even state as much, if asked.

Look elsewhere - recommendations in my sig.

If you want it NOW - choose VMP.

MGD

shotgunz 11-08-2010 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by MGDfan (Post 4390506)
A New Acronym is born! W A S U H O O B I ! :banana: :bows:

Pronounced ... "Wass - uh - Hoobi"

Warmer
Air than
Stock
Under the
HOOd
Bling
Intake

:beers:
MGD

:lol:

You da' man!

:beers:

88racing 11-08-2010 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by MGDfan (Post 4390506)
A New Acronym is born! W A S U H O O B I ! :banana: :bows:

Pronounced ... "Wass - uh - Hoobi" -or- for the syllable-challenged, "Wa - shoobi" :lol:

Warmer
Air than
Stock
Under the
HOOd
Bling
Intake

:beers:
MGD

:beers:
:lol:

JackandJanet 11-08-2010 09:49 AM

VERY good, MGD! :thumbsup:

- Jack

MGDfan 11-08-2010 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by JackandJanet (Post 4390619)
VERY good, MGD! :thumbsup:

- Jack

Alas, I am but a humble scribe. The real kudos need to go to Sir Shotgunz's inspirational genius :bows:

It will only be a matter of time before Wa-shoobi's for Sale begin appearing in the Classifieds ! :lol:

:beers:
MGD

iHellFire 11-08-2010 08:38 PM

awesome. thanks guys, i was hoping that i wasn't going to have to buy one.
now i don't have the heritage model just so you guys know. i don't know if that makes a difference.

MGDfan 11-08-2010 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by iHellFire (Post 4391293)
awesome. thanks guys, i was hoping that i wasn't going to have to buy one.
now i don't have the heritage model just so you guys know. i don't know if that makes a difference.

Hi bud.

Yes it does, actually.

The Heritage models use a MAF that looks like this:

https://info.rockauto.com/getimage/g...F0926_FULL.jpg

Non-Heritage models use a MAF that looks like this:

https://info.rockauto.com/getimage/g...F0930_FULL.jpg


The first houses the actual MAF in it's own controlled venturi environment. This is largely impervious to intake nods (within reason).

The second relies upon the aftermarket Wa-shoobi's implementation of where the slot-style MAF will reside - and it's almost always suboptimal and requires correction for the resultant MAF TF skew.

MGD

88racing 11-08-2010 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by iHellFire (Post 4391293)
awesome. thanks guys, i was hoping that i wasn't going to have to buy one.
now i don't have the heritage model just so you guys know. i don't know if that makes a difference.

Look for the Gotts mod in the How To subforum.....

iHellFire 11-10-2010 07:09 PM

well wait....if i do the gotts mod, will i still need to do a custom tune?

Norm 11-10-2010 08:43 PM

No you wont.

iHellFire 11-10-2010 09:08 PM

Ok, i really just don't want to run too lean and then ****ing burn a hole in my pistons


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