Hello all im torn between 2 programmers. 1st is the sct customed tuned by vmp, 2nd is the gyphoon by php. Ive looked and cant find a price on the gyphoon. I know the price on the sct can any one help on the gyphoon? Also i might get a supercharger on this in the future which one is better at datalogging? I like the ability of the gyphoon to mount and watch whats going on and ability to change on the fly settings. Is one better than the other at datalogging. I bought a programmer before and didnt know all the info on it and ended up costing me in the long run. Any input is helpful thanks.

 

Here is the info on the Gryphon. Most people here seem pretty satisfied.

http://gopowerhungry.com/_Ford_F-Ser...e_Vehicle.html

 

Hey azfx4 ive looked at this site many times and i guess i overlooked the price. Thanks

 

Hello and Good Morning to you sir!

SCT's major advantage over the Gryphon is in end-user datalogging capability & tools. This includes the ability to connect a wideband, and an EGT and log those inputs along with the dozen or so PID's / DMR's that a tuner feller would need to properly correct any issues in the tuning.

If that is a significant criteria for you then SCT would be yer optimum choice. Especially if an S/C is in yer future.

BTW - please explain this: "ability to change on the fly settings". Any parameter changes to the tuning will require a reflash - hardly 'on-the-fly'.

I hope you have a great day!

Cheers!

MGD v4.2

 

Thanks mgdfan thats the info i needed. As for as power levels 1-2-3 can be changed on the fly.

 

No, the power levels can not be changed on the fly on a gasser.

 

Thanks bluejay i thought they could guess i will be going with the sct. I thought you could change them which was one of the options i liked.

 

With both the SCT and the Gryphon, you have to stop and shut off the key then back on. Takes about 30 seconds. Just not on the fly like a diesel.

 

Can this be done with the X3 or are you referring to the Livewire?

 

Good evening, Corey!

Yes m'am - both have on-device or pass-through datalogging capabilities. As well, both offer 2 scalable analog inputs, for AFR and EGT external sensors, for example. Or MAP sensors for boosted applications...

The 'magic' is really contained within SCT's LiveLink application, which configures the devices for logging, permits a huge array of PID/DMR selection, allows scaling formulae to be assigned to each analog channel to accomodate different sensor requirements, can display PID's / DMR's as guages, and captures the datastream into CSV files for later export to Excel for analysis in support of tuning adjustments.

Pass-through mode utilizes each tuner as a PCM <--> PC interface and in conjunction with a laptop is the more capable datalogging platform.

On-device mode requires no supporting laptop connection, but is constrained in terms of onboard storage.

Lastly, LiveWire handhelds can actually natively process and display both analog inputs on the screen as a gauge; useful as the device is meant to stay in the vehicle.

Sorry - I got a little carried away, lol. And I suspect Bill already has a lock on all of this.

Take care Corey, and please pass along my regards to Bill. You folks do indeed Rock

Sincerely,

MGD

 

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Can the X3 support wideband O2 monitoring (referring to your first post)? I was under the impression that it was only the Livewire that could do that.

I'm sorry for asking so many questions -- Bill is on the road and not around for me to pick his brain.