I bought an S&B CAI for my '05 4.6L (waiting to get a tuner before I install) and want to get a gryphon. How much extra hp/tq would i get out of the CAI with the gryphon tunes as opposed to having the CAI with no tuner? im trying to figure out how much these gryphons help the application of a CAI and and any other mod. O, and i have the ROUSH O/R exhaust. wondering if the gryphon increases the power gained from this exhaust as well. thanks

 

Buy some dyno time, keep us posted.

 

hmmm, tempting* but i think i'll not throw my money down the drain.

 

You don't need to wait for your tunes. I ran a S&B without tunes for roughly 10,000 miles. Switched to a Air Force 1 for about 3000 then added a XCal3.

If you want to know true dyno numbers, I would buy dyno time before and after the gryphon install. That way you know for sure what you gained.

 

You have the 4.6, remove the intake silencer (search this forum, removing it mostly gives your the aftermarket intake sound) and get a free flowing drop-in filter. There is your intake system. Get tunes and be happy.

 

This sounds cheap and easy but i am under the impression that one will achieve more power from a CAI with custom tunes designed for that specific CAI. will your home made kit add any power with tunes? i don't care about the sound of an intake

 

No, it will make it worse. This is from an older engine than yours but you get the idea.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ot...t-results.html
You'll also note that Suzuki also said to get a free flowing filter to accompany the cut. When you lose the silencer you also need to allow more air in as well. If you have the $$, just get the CAI and tunes though, it will look and perform better.


Get the CAI and the custom tunes.

 

Ugh, i am not even going to argue with you, you don't know what you are talking about. Just because you 'worked' fixing your problem doesn't mean you can come on here and preach about tunes and intakes.

 

Wow u again.

 

Well if you had read my post I was agreeing with you not arguing. ALl I had
Added was that a cai and tunes would be better. Second,
I learned by personal experience and talking with leaders in the field which is
How one learns. So go try and bully someone else turf guy.

 

Have you owned a 4.6l 2v F150, do you know what kind of MAF it has, do you know what size it is, do you know what other MAFs can interchange with it?


Do you what the silencer is technically called and how it works, What is it used for and why at only low engine speeds and without the silencer it may play the roll of evil?

No, it was not to accompany the cut. I was just informing him that with the tube removed the sound is changed (as many people like this sound, we found out he does not care for it). In my opinion the only thing holding the intake back is the filter itself and the inlet from the fender to the filter, and maybe the MAF as it is necked down, but you do have options to change it.

The price is not worth, and keep in mind we are talking about the 4.6l 2v, now if this was the 5.4l 3v my suggestion would be different.

 

Um nope have had a 4.6 2v. I have owned a 302 5.0, 351c & 351w 5.8, 300 4.9, 240 3.9, 4.2 256 my last one before my current 5.4 330. So no I never have nor did I ever claim I did. Nor did I ever see any mention of a MAF anywhere in this post. And as for what one does it have? Nope, don't know and wouldnt know about others for it as I have never modded an engine so heavy it needed one and all I ever did was clean the one in my 01 and before that none of my engines had them.


Really? Who cares. I don't know what the real name is of it and I really don't need or care to. I know it's function and purpose and that is enough. The guys already has his CAI. Haro??????


^^um your post DID say to pull the silencer AND get the drop in.

If you had noticed, the OP's original question stated he already has the CAI and Exhaust and was inquiring about gains from the tunes. The intake and exhaust are already free flowing. No the 2v's don't have the lean issues that the 3v's do, but might as well as utilize the mods already in place.

I never claimed anything that you keep accusing me of so just stop man. Doing crap like this detracts from the quality of the board that I have learned alot from for many years and to the obvious amount of knowledge that you posses on these subjects. It is really not needed.

Finally, sorry to the Forum and bluejay who edited my post, didn't mean to post that garbage. I hate www bully's who go around hacking at people like they are on the jr high school playground it's just immature.

 

Call Bill at PHP and he can explain to you what the best way to go is. He saved me roughly 300 bucks by telling me how to modify the stock intake to get roughly the same results as a CAI, and is is an expert! Pretty much the only benefit is that the CAI looks nicer. But I don't know about you, but I'd rather save the 300 bucks and put it elsewhere.

 

Cool, thanks. i'll give him a call. and if i can mod the intake myself, i'll either return the S&B or sell it. it would be nice to put the $205 towards some pacesetter long tube headers. i heard long tubes give some pretty badass hp and tq gains. and i didn't mean to start a fight, but it seems inevitable. this was merely a battle in the war of over questionable CAI's... lol

 

No worries. U didn't do anything. Bill seems like a great guy. He has a post on the php website forum about this that Might help you since you are willing to give up the CAI. I Don't remember if it was 4.6 or 5.4 he was talking about I just glanced through it real quick the otherday. Good luck.