Hey yall, I know you are all avid Troyer fans, but I recently purchased my Edge Evo (got free next day air shipping too). I installed it in less then 10 minutes, went straight to the stage 2 programming (stage 3 ie. performance, requires 91 octane), and it asked me if i wanted to run a custom tune. So I said sure, why not, and I started looking at all the neat things I can do with this tuner but have absolutely no idea what most of them are aside from the obvious like speed limiter, rpm limiter, idle rpm etc. I started thinking about how I can milk even more mpg out of my truck (btw im getting before the Evo 16.8 in my 2006 5.4 Lariat). I thought altering my RPM limiter could help, but my friend quickly lead me away from that idea saying that changing my RPM limiter could end up putting too much stress on the cylinders and the engine overall if I set it too high (ie. too close to 7k rpm or above 7k). So I thought to myself, how about the idle RPM? Why not change that to a lower RPM rating considering the vast majority of my driving is city driving, shouldn't that help? My question to you is, is there some kind of minimum requirement RPM that your engine must be running at all times or it will automatically turn off? I think the stock idle RPM is around 640, I was thinking something lower like 200, or maybe even 100. Hell if it doesn't matter I'll drop it as low as I can go.

Any thoughts? Your help is greatly appreciated.

P.S. If any of you have an Edge Evo and ran their own custom tunes and would like to share some of your secrets please let me know! Thanks again!

 

First advice is to read the manual. Seconly, you do not want to lower the rpms, that is about as low as you should ever go. It's mainly for increasing the rpms to get you going better when you have mods and looking for performance. Thirdly, if you talking about the Max rpm rev limiter, that is to set the rpms about 400 rpms over your rpm shift points at WOT. If you are not going for performance, then leave it alone. Lastly, not everyone is a Troyer fan. There are many Edge, Gryphon and VPM customers here. I have had the Edge for about 2 years.

If fuel ecomnomy is all you're looking for, just load level 2 with 87 and leave it alone. The only other thing for better economy would be to get a custom tune from PHP.

 

Awesome thanks for the advice. I'll get to reading the Edge manual tonight, always enjoyed reading stuff about my truck. I do have another question pertaining to your Edge, do you see alot of low end torque with it? I don't notice much of an increase in low end torque, but the high end.....oh hell yeah haha. I noticed (before the Edge), if I floor it while coasting between 20-40mph my truck has alot more performance for me to notice, and with the Edge, my truck literally throws my head back everytime I step on the gas, I can't get enough of that.

I know these are big ol' heavy trucks, but how can I increase my low end torque or am I just missing something here?

 

level 2 should give you the most low end torque as it is a towing program, and it fades rapidly over 2000 to 2500 rpms. Level 3 has less low end but pulls all the way to 5500 rpms. If you haven't tried level 3, that is where you have the fun.

 

I'm hesitant to try it out since I'm not running the required 91 octane fuel, does it really matter?

 

Absolutely! Run your tank low and fill up with at least 91 before setting it to level 3. Check your mileage, you will most likey find you get better mileage with level 3 if you can keep your foot out of it.

 

What about E85? If my memory serves correctly, E85's octane rating is higher then 91 octane right? I filled up with E85 once. My mpg dropped below 10 and my truck smelled like corn, but my buddy said just get it tuned and it should be fine and perform even better.

What things do you do custom with your tuner to get a little bit more performance out of your truck or does Edge pretty much have it covered?

 

If you don't have a Flex Fuel truck, do not run E85, it will eat up components. If your truck is Flex Fuel, get custom tunes. Additional performance mods are an intake and exhaust. But, to run an aftermarket intake, you need to get a custom tune from PHP. Do a search on the subjects and you will find lots of info.

 

My truck is flex fuel, although it doesnt have any badges or anything that say it, it does have the right VIN number that matches the flex fuel trucks. When you say get a custom tune from PHP, is it like a list of the things I should do with my edge, or an actual tuner? I already have a K&N intake and flowmaster exhaust by the way.

 

You really need to do a lot of research and reading. There is custom settings that you can do and there is custom tuning done by a someone that writes programs or a tune just for your set up. I would not run the K&N intake with the Edge without a custom tune from PHP. The Edge manual states that it's canned tunes are for stock trucks.

 

x2 no intake with edge

You need to actually read over your edge manual 2-3 times to fully get a grasp of what the thing can really do.
I'd also recomend lvl 3 performance IMO i saw better gas mileage, and much better performance! just remember to stay off the pedal so you can see the mileage numbers.
I really would recomend that you play with your edge for now, w/o the intake, run a tank or 2 of 91oct. And after that, if you really want to use your intake and make your truck perform even better, upgrade to a gryphon and buy some custom calibrated tunes, more or less what bluejay said!

FYI - Gryphon is an edge but recased, after purchasing an upgrade to a gryphon you can then purchase the custom calibrated tunes.

 

I appreciate all the advice, however I am a bit confused about the custom tunes. So what exactly do I do? Box up my edge and send it off to these people and they send me this other thing? Why can't they just make the tune, and I load it onto the Edge online or something? Sorry but my brain is a little fried, it just sounds to me like your saying my edge isn't all its cracked up to me until i buy a Gryphon. Thanks again for your time, and please try to make your replys idiot proof haha.

 

I just took a look at the order form for the Gryphon and, honestly, it's a bit overwhelming. I don't know what half of the stuff on the form even is.

 

First I want to give the two thumbs up to Bluejay, he's hit it all right on the head. (Saved me a lot of typing too!)

Secondly I'm a huge Edge/Gryphon supporter myself. Just filled out my custom order form for my Gryphon, having some exhaust work done next week and sending it off.

Thirdly, to answer your question about edge to gryphon, you're thoughts are correct. It's pretty simple. You send your Edge to Bill and Corey at PHP, www.powerhungryperformance.com , they'll update your software to the Gryphon software and send it back to you in a few days with their canned tunes installed. Custom tunes take a little bit of time, and they'll email them to you, you'll hook up your gryphon, download the custom tunes and away you. They're EXTREMELY helpful, always willing to talk on the phone and email too! The pricing is SUPER affordable, especially for the results!

PHP can make anything run better, but if you don't have any mods, you're A-OK just running the canned tunes.

I have an S&B cold air intake, and magnaflow exhaust, I'm running a little lean, but I went from getting 14-15mpg city to 17.4 city, and from 18 highway to 21.8 running the Level 2 with 87 octane on mine. Can't wait to see what Bill can do for me with a Gryphon!

 

Give Corey and Bill a call, they'll help you through it, or you can always fill it out and send it in, they'll call you before they get rolling!