How does everyone like theirs? How does everyone like their custom tunes. I have a 04 F150 with a 6" lift on 35s and was looking into some programmers. Ive heard all about troyer and vmp but is the gryphon just as good? I love how the gryphon looks exactly like the edge with the display model. I know you can get the scanguage if you get troyer or vmp but if the gryphon with custom tunes is just as good i would rather get that. So just like to hear what people think about it with their custom tunes

 

I wouldn't run anything else. Really enjoy the gauges and Bill's tunes are great.

 

and what tunes do you run... performance, economy, towing?

 

Id say get the gryphon straight from PHP, ive got the EDGE and have driven my friends gryphon w/ custom tunes and even though the canned level 3 is awesome the custom 87 performance felt just as good I could only imagine the custom 93 performance

P.S.- War Damn Eagle

 

I kept the canned towing tune as I tow very little and it was adequate. I have the 87 Perf and 93 Perf. I am running the 87 most of the time.

 

i wouldnt use a 93 tune. im 87 all the way

so would i still feel some power and extra mpgs if i got a 87 performance tune? or would i only get some mpgs if i got the 87 economy tune?

 

Youll get extra MPG's no matter what tune you get over stock

 

I think it depends on what you were getting with the stock tune. I had very good gas mileage already, so I really did not get any increase. Mileage stayed the same but performance was like night and day. If economy is a major factor, I think you might should consider an economy tune.

 

Why don't you want to use 93 octane? It's pretty much a wash for the price since you'll get better mileage, not to mention even more power.

I'd be willing to bet, keeping driving styles the same, you'd see a mileage increase with any type of tune, especially a custom tune.

 

its not a major factor i just wanted to know that if i got the performance tune then it would at least increase my mpgs a little bit. Anything is better than my 11.5 right now . and i saw that the gryphon comes with 3 free tunes so i think i would get the 87 performance, economy, and im not sure about the last one because i dont do anytowing.

 

Any tuner who is selling a custom tuned Xcal2 is going to include three custom tunes in the price. For example Justin with VMP Tuning charges $395 for a Xcal2 with 3 custom tunes.

http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...=138&parent=66

 

i dont use 93 octane because i heard that its not worth the money

 

I've always thought it was worth the money. Like I said, I did the math and it came out to be nearly a wash for the increase of mileage. Factor in the added performance and it's a no brainer for me ..

 

Yeah but i also need a display model so if you factor in the scanguage price (like 160) it becomes $550. and the gryphon is only $495

 

You are correct if you have an engine tuned for 87 and run 93. It is a waste. However, if your engine is tuned for 93, then it can more than pay for itselfwith better mileage. That is unless you're like me and have to "feel the power" too much.