i have the f 150 4.6l 4x4 i want more torque im goin to be gettin new gears down the road but not yet... and some more power so whats the best route for a tuner and there is somewhat of a budget im tryin to stay under 500...but i want feed back from all

 

well it depends... edge if ur gunna leave it stock (for the most part... unless u get bills version of the edge and get his tunes)
but if ur gunna mod it and put intakes stuff like that id probly go Xcal3 with tuning from either justin or troyer. (thats probly wat ima endup doin too lol)

 

I would get the Edge, and have Bill work out your driveability problems.

 

Bill seem's to be working magic with these Edge Evo's, but I would still like to see one on a dyno compared to say Troyer or VMP.

 

The smart money is on the XCal with custom tunes of your choice by whoever

Why would you even consider Edge? Just about every other thread is about Edge and the ongoing problems

 

Many of which are user error, there are problems with all of them, I have had both Edge models, installed many on others trucks and never had any problems to date, can't say the same about some SCT stuff I did.

 

i appreciate all the input...my other question was pricing???

 

What do you need, at least a bachelor to figure it out

 

I got an edge without doing any research. I slapped a CAI on and plugged in the edge for the first time on the same day. I created a HORRIBLE exhaust drone . I am currently working with Bill on the drone issue and he has made it 85% better in only one attempt . What I am getting at here is if your going to do any mods (namely a cai) I would go with the xcal. I wish I would have.
Don't know what the xcal cost but my new edge was 399.00
I really do like the dash pod that you get with the edge.
Ever consider getting a used tunner? Kinda wish I would have checked into that also...

 

Preschool education or maybe a first grade there might be some big words , but all it takes is a few mins to read the f^^kin manual!!

 

Custom tuning.

 

so what's your point? they don't know how to read?

 

Wow ok , The users do not read the manual , they just install it and go