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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Smile Troyer tune update.

Called Troyers today to find out the status of my tunes as its 2 months now. They told me i should have them the middle or end of next week. The last week or so it just seems to drag on and i check my email every day in hope that they will be there.
Well i got another week to go. I'll be sure to post as soon as i get them installed.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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Took me 8 weeks almost to the day to recieve the tunes..

Patience young Luke, tunes you will acquire, more power you will have..
 
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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I'll be at 8 weeks on Sunday. My birthday is the 27th. Therefore..... A nice present for my birthday would be a nice little package from Troyer!!!!!! Hey Mike? You reading this?????
 
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Irish FX4
Called Troyers today to find out the status of my tunes as its 2 months now. They told me i should have them the middle or end of next week. The last week or so it just seems to drag on and i check my email every day in hope that they will be there.
Well i got another week to go. I'll be sure to post as soon as i get them installed.
Are you guys referring to the 3 tune files you get with the purchase of a programmer or custom tunes from dyno runs?

Cause if you are just talking about the 3 tunes you get with the programmer, then I'm going to serious re-think buying my stage I kit. 2 months is ridiculous.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Monday will be nine weeks...
 
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Are you guys referring to the 3 tune files you get with the purchase of a programmer or custom tunes from dyno runs?

Cause if you are just talking about the 3 tunes you get with the programmer, then I'm going to serious re-think buying my stage I kit. 2 months is ridiculous.
It's the 3 custom tunes you receive with the programmer. Yes, it takes about 8 weeks, more or less.

You can certainly buy canned tunes that are generic to any F150 and bear no relation to your vehicle and how you drive the thing, what mods you may have. You can get something like that shipped overnight.

Lots of folks are happy with those.

Like I said before though, if you want tunes written for your trucks strategy, your mods, the way you drive, then just be patient and wait for Troyer to write 'em.

I can promise that you won't be disappointed.

Instant gratification has its well-earned place, but some things are worth waiting for.

Hey, you've been driving it without tunes for however long, you plan to keep the truck for at least a few years.. what's 8 weeks?

 
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Old Jan 19, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spike747
Are you guys referring to the 3 tune files you get with the purchase of a programmer or custom tunes from dyno runs?

Cause if you are just talking about the 3 tunes you get with the programmer, then I'm going to serious re-think buying my stage I kit. 2 months is ridiculous.
the wait isnt that bad. you can have the tuner sent right away so that you can run the canned tunes for 2 months while you wait for the custom tunes. i ran the canned tunes before i got my custom tunes and i can say from experience, there is no comparison. way more power from idle to redline with the custom tunes
 
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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the wait isnt that bad. you can have the tuner sent right away so that you can run the canned tunes for 2 months while you wait for the custom tunes. i ran the canned tunes before i got my custom tunes and i can say from experience, there is no comparison. way more power from idle to redline with the custom tunes
I don't get it though. Why any delay at all? There's gotta be a good chance that they've given the same program to someone else already. There can't be that many combinations. I would image 20-30 at the most. Haven't they all been engineered already?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Hi Everyone,

Excellent question, and we certainly understand the basic question of why the wait - it's for several reasons.

A lot of people want our tunes of course, but volume is not even the major reason these past couple of months. Since the X3 came out with it's canned tunes, we took advantage of the fact that you have tunes you can use right away to do some additional R&D on the new 2008's, as well as new fuel mileage tunes, doing testing at high altitudes and some other driveability work - and of course, doing more R&D to deal with the ever-changing fuel quality. So it is the continual ongoing R&D that is required for us to continue to be able to deliver the best possible tuning on each and every one of the *hundreds* of different strategies in these F-150's each and every model year alone. So it is *not* just 20-30 different revisions, every model year of the F-150 has *hundreds* of PCM revisions and we tune for each of them as required. I wish we could do them all the same, but we do not compromise, our reputation is built on our *quality*. Yes, when we have vehicles of the exact same strategy, model year, configuration *and* modifications in a short period of time, then *those* tunes do indeed go quicker, sure! But that is not the norm overall due to the hundreds of different PCM revisions, people have different modifications, fuel quality is vastly different from one area to another, etc. I could go on, but I think you get my point. Those of you who have come here get a chance to see in person these detailed things we talk about, and so they get a chance to really understand that a bit better - the rest quite naturally, wonder why because they do not get directly exposed to that - perfectly natural.

Another point is the fact that even among say, 2004, 2005, 2006 F-150's that we have done so many times - we do not just do one round of R&D and then stay static, we are constantly doing more & more R&D to keep up with fuel quality, make further gains in various areas, driveability improvements or doing things in different ways, power in a certain area of part of the throttle range, the recent vast amount of R&D we just did in our fuel-mileage tunes, how we control the transmission, and dealing with ever-changing fuel quality - that's a real biggie.

Yes, trust me, we *know* how this sounds to some - but nobody else does the thorough calibration work that we do specifically in F-150's. For those who care about getting the best, they do understand and want the very best possible, and that is why they come to us - and we cannot let them down, our quality must stay first and foremost, and thanks to the X3 now available, recent orders have tunes right away until they get our custom tunes.

Another example are the 2008's - due to how long the leftover 2007 sales went on getting 08 5.4 3V's in quantity took longer, so while our basic new model year R&D was pretty much done, we wanted to do further detailed work like we normally do over time, & this model year that extra R&D took longer. So there are actually many reasons why - however, for those with X3's, which is the vast majority for the past 6 weeks or so now and from now on, you have tunes you can use right away until you get your custom tunes!

Since we started using the X3's, we took a few weeks to do a few more R&D projects in the interest of making sure that you get the best possible tuning in each vehicle, so we did a few major R&D projects that we really hadn't scheduled. We also worked with a number of vehicle owners on a couple of aspects at high altitude, and we'd like to thank them for their help in doing that testing with us - as well as doing testing in some other areas with other owners, too.

Another example of why continuing R&D is required is that fuel quality is an issue, over the past 5 years the trend has been downward in terms of fuel quality (energy content), more ethanol content, etc., and this varies so much over this continent - it takes continuing work on many different configurations with different types of modifications to really stay on top of this to deliver the level of tuning that our customers have grown accustomed to from us.

So those are some of the kinds of things that really affect this overall - it's how we stay on top year after year, it's just what we do. Now that we have much of the major additional R&D we wanted to do done for now, these times will drop back down to a more reasonable time frame -

We understand & greatly appreciate you working with us, truly we do - we cannot thank you enough, and hope that this helps some of you to understand a bit better just why & what we do, and our dedication to providing the best possible F-150 calibrations.

If anyone would like to know where they are right now and when they can expect their tunes, please feel free to give us a call and I will be happy to go over that with you personally, OK?

Thanks to all of you, and our bests to all!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Im only 6 weeks and a couple days in

If I wouldnt have been so lazy I probably could have had them by now though.

Im not complaining though, the time is going fast. Half the time I dont even remember that I ordered anything
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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I just got off the phone with Troyer and they said about 1 more week. There are 3 people ahead of me on the tune list. Man, I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hivoltagefx4
I just got off the phone with Troyer and they said about 1 more week. There are 3 people ahead of me on the tune list. Man, I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!
1 week must be killing you. I switched over to the 93 tune now
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Hey 05, How are you liking that 93 tune or is it to early to tell???
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Guys I ran the can tunes for a couple days and there is no comparison. I was at mike's shop last week for efans, pulleys and dyno tune and my truck is a whole new beast. Mike showed me what they were doing and I was just amazed. My truck was acting funny on the dyno, which was acting funny but mike spend hours just tuning it to make sure everything was just right. I was there from 830 am to 7pm on a friday night just cause he wanted to make sure everything was perfect. Trust me the wait is worth it.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hivoltagefx4
Hey 05, How are you liking that 93 tune or is it to early to tell???
On my second tank, Still no wow factor but much better then the 87 performance tune. I had a little race with a F-350 and thats where the wow factor came in. I blew right by him. Im trying to see how much better fuel mileage I can get with 93 over 87 but the first tank I went wheeling on the beach for a couple of hours and gas mileage went down the drain.
 
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