I've done some research and I seem to be getting some cnflicting information. I have an 0 f-150 with a aftermarket intake and edge programmer on lvl 2. I have been reading about the S&B intake and some posts i've read state that the two work fine together no worries and some say it causes a drone and a lean condition.

I figured i'd post on this side as it's more a edge question than a intake question, but any help on this matter would be appreciated. Thanks

 

Hey dave..

Not sure what year truck ya have there.. lol.. an '0 could be a lot of things!.. but if it's an '03 or earlier, or even an '04 Heritage, you should be okay with running the Edge and S&B as far as running lean.. Meaning you're probably okay..

Lean is lean, but drone is a subjective thing, what bothers some may not bother others.. depends on what you like to hear, what will be bothersome..

If you've got an '03 or earlier I think you'll be fine as far as A/F ratios go.. whatever drone you may experience is your call..

 

Trust me on the 04+ f150 when I say the drone is not music to anyones ears. I love to hear the intake sing at wot but at 1800 rpms the drone will make you freak out. There is no way to really describe it. Some people have it worst then others but none the less you will have it. You cant even listen to the radio or even talk to someone next to you. Most people sell the intake, but I went the other route and sold the Edge and decided to get a custom tune. Plus I was running lean.

 

On our 2006 F150, the drone from the AFE intake was so bad that I yanked it off and put the stock airbox back on. Now when I say it droned, I mean it was so bad that the driver's side floorboard would vibrate and I could feel it in my shoes!

To be perfectly honest, I made more power with the stock airbox (minus the rinky-dinky inlet snorkel) than I did with the AFE anyway, and it was a whole lot quieter.

I don't undertand why CAI manufacturers feel the need to remove the Helmholz filter tube from the intakes. It doesn't degrade performance and sure makes for a nicer ride. I know that there are other CAI units that are much quieter by design, but do any leave the filter intact?

Anyway, just some thoughts.

Bill

 

Can you elaborate as to what modification you did with the snorkel?

 

I want some info on the stock intake mod also!!! Give it up ASE, you Da MAN

 

TheDave,

Any relation to The Todd, I love scrubs.

As far as the EDGE and an aftermarket intake is concerned on our trucks (I have an "03 or earlier",) I've been running this for a while without any problems or complaints. On LVL 2 with a K&N.

I 've got a strong hissing breathing noise to let me know it's working, and it sounds good. No droning, and you shouldn't get any either.

I doubt you'll have any issues...

 

I must say I haven't had any issues and I'm running an Edge Evo on level 3 with a volant cai and roush exhaust. I haven't had any complaints whatsoever and my pickup runs fantastic.

 

Basically, we removed the anemic snorkel from the inlet tube where it protrudes into the fenderwell. After removing the big rubber grommet and replacing it with rubber moulding (to prevent rattling) we attached a piece of thin-walled PVC tubing from the inlet tube to the fender.

I really wish I had some picutres of it, but since I no longer have the truck I can't show you. However, I am certain that I read somwhere on here that some has done the exact same thing.

In any event, I had found that running a bone stock calibration with the modified inlet netted me an 8 HP gain. Bone stock with an AFE netted me a 14 HP loss! Not to mention I couldn't hear the radio unless I was decelerating. Horrible droning!

So that's it... It's the "Tymar" (for you diesel guys) of the F150 world. Not really a big deal.

Enjoy.

Bill

 

In brief - without measurements, you can't really back the statement up definitively. Lack of a CEL is not definitive.

Volants do not breathe well at all above 4,000rpm - well documented.

No flame intended.

 

Hi Bill - In the case of the 04+'s - those Helmholtz chambers, while predominantly there to suppress (at least) three fundamental resonance frequencies in the intake tract, Ford actually did a purdy good job in terms of also preserving torque - at the lower end below 1,800 rpm and again at the power peak. It is by no means a consistently performing intake across the useable rpm range, and dies at high rpm - my logging confirmed this in no uncertain terms, lol - (where some other properly engineered, but noisier, intakes really show an advantage), but good ol' Bernoulli is in evidence where most folks need it - off-idle. All in all, a decent compromise that serves most folks very well. Not sexy, but gets the job done.

Be advised - this is a regurgitation of previously published and/or vocally disseminated information.... Your mileage may differ, lol.

 

It's an 05 5.4, guess I fat fingered the year. For once I figure I've done enough research and picked the right intake for what I wanted to do and this fun little surprise pops up on me. And of course, I had already ordered the thing a day before finding out about the droning issue so I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

edit: i'll post back in a few months when I get the thing installed, let you know how it goes

 

Same here..
I have a 05 with Edge and K&N an NO droning. This combo sounds SWEET on my truck with SI/DO Magnaflow exhaust!!