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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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towing with a tuner

I know that you are not supposed to tow with the high perf tunes. But what is the reason, is there an amount that I can tow with out causing damage? What will be damaged?

Just looking for some more info.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Towing raises EGT and if it goes to high serious damage could result. Towing something light like a jetski you can get away with but nothing heavy on a performance tune
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Fast,

Mike and I talked on the phone at length about towing with a performance tune. He explained about the EGR's and how all that works. In a nutshell, the EGR's will rise EXTREMELY fast when towing with the performance tune. I tow a 3500# boat to the lake, which is only 6 miles from door to dock. I tried every scenario with Mike hoping I could get an okie dokie from him to tow with the performance tune, but he always had the right answer as to why not. Don't chance it, 5 minutes to load the towing tune and you sleep well at night.

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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My sons Kawasaki 800SX and trailer weigh approximately 550 lbs; not a problem
 

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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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But don't forget to bring the better half along with the friend, and maybe the lawn chairs, table with the canopy, grill with hamburger and hotdogs on ice, don't forget the propane bottle, cooler full of barley pop, can of gas for jet ski, maybe a tool box incase of trouble, and a spare part or two. Get my drift.

Now that 550 lbs just turned into maybe 1500 pounds.

No towing on performance tune, I think means No!

I'm not on a high horse here, just don't want people to start thinking well if 550 lbs is ok, then maybe 1000 lbs is ok for a short distance, then maybe 2000 is ok on a flat 300 mile trip, so on, and so on.

No put-downs intended! Just food for thought!

Gene

Headed for Daytona with 6000lbs of trailer and bikes for racing and riding in a couple of weeks, and will be using the towing tune.

Got to love Florida this time of the year!
 

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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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When we go it’s strictly business, no bear, wine, grill, cooler, table, canopy, spare parts etc, etc; maybe extra gas. I only have to drive about 2 miles over the causeway to the river where we put in. About an hour of riding is all we can handle. My son bought it new last year and to date has at least 2K in mods; it’s probably pushing 125hp now, and he’s still going for more.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Now that sounds like a sweat ride. I hour of holding on to a 125 hp water craft is just more fun than we should be aloud to have in one day! Enjoy!

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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Hi fast636,

There are any number of reasons, some of of which have already been discussed in this thread and in literally thousands of other threads, too - and thus are easily retrievable by simply using the SEARCH feature.

EGT's are but one factor (and a very important one) - there are numerous reasons why you do not tow on a true performance tune, most of which have to do with keeping your vehicle's powertrain alive - if you want more reasons why, use the SEARCH feature, as this has been covered literally hundreds upon hundreds of times before, so there is plenty of research material here for you to read up on in this regard.

In our performance tuning, you can still load the vehicle up to it's maximum **ON BOARD** weight rating - so you could carry something in the bed, for example, as long as it's within the bed's load rating - but you cannot tow ANYTHING on our performance tunes. If you need to tow anything, including a jet ski (which means a trailer, and suddenly you're at 1500+ lb or more, etc.), use a towing-compatible tune. Towing something is not like hauling the same weight on the truck - you have additional wind resistance, additional rolling resistance, etc., etc.

So it's very simple - keep the EGT's, tranny temperatures, & everything else in line by using performance tunes when not towing, and using a towing-compatible tune when towing.

I hope that helps, & good luck!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdadeo
My sons Kawasaki 800SX and trailer weigh approximately 550 lbs; not a problem

one word of advice.......



 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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thanks for the replies, i wasn't planning on towing with the perf tune just wondered why i couldn't
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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800SX oh yeah
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Last summer I had to tow one of those 2005 jet skis in because it broke down........ Not hating on it. Got towed in more then once on mine last year tho....
 
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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I see what Troyer says but there isn't any reason that you couldn't load a tow tune and just leave loaded as I see it. it may not give you the optimal performance. But if you tow frequently or unexpectedly, that might be the way to go for some individuals.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Yeah I have to leave mine on the towing tune. It got old pulling the fuse and waiting for the the new tune to load. I was changing the tune several times per tank of gas.
 
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