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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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xcal2 w/ factory tech valvebody

I'm wondering if the xcal2 can help with my harsh 1-2 shift point that I have had ever since I installed my factory tech valvebody? I know you have the ability to soften or harden the shift points so maybe Mike can chime in please?

Also, since I can't resist to ask, will my lil' 4.6 be able to hang around with one of the new 300hp 5.4's after an xcal2 upgrade? Keep in mind I am running one of the lighter configurations being a single cab 2WD setup. Thanks guys!

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Yes, we can easily make that transmission shift much softer than it is now.

Yes, we can make your 4.6 outrun any 5.4 - but it's not going to do it with nothing more than a tune - not unless you get lucky and have the lightest possible configuration and run up against a "bad" driver with the heaviest possible 5.4 configuration. Don't forget you have 70 HP less than them to start off with, and the tuning is going to add about 25 HP to the 4.6 motor - unless it's one that can't go open loop from the factory, in which case we'll pick up a bit more power gain, and then maybe you can take on the heavier 5.4's, you just never know until you do it, is the reality. There are a fair number of those 4.6's that can't go open loop, so there's a fair chance we can get more power than "normal" from it.

If you are serious about wanting more performance, the single best bang for the buck by far is our Troyer Performance custom tuning - so that is the place to start, and we'll get that transmission shifting under control as well. Just give us a quick call at our number listed below & we'll be happy to help you.
 

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Thanks for the reply Mike. I'm pretty much set on ordering the xcal2; I'm just paying off a few things currently, but plan on making the call within the next 2 weeks. As for beating the new 300hp 5.4's I was just hoping to be able to keep up with some of the heavier crew cab modelsl.

I am glad to hear that we can get my 1-2 shift under control, because it's a pain to always have to lightly give it gas until it gets past that shift before I can really accelerate without a violent jerk. Thanks again and I will be calling very very soon.

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Hi Brian,

You're very welcome - sounds like that shifting issue is a bit of a PITA, but don't worry, we can make that end up with a nice linear progression of shift firmness directly related to throttle position for you, like it really should be.

We generally like to set them up so that at light throttle, the shifting is still nice & smooth, so you don't have any neck-jerking shifts, no problems driving on snow & ice, etc - and then as you give it more and more throttle, the shifts get progressively firmer in response - that's really how they should be set up, or at least, how I like it & how most of our customers prefer it.

Hang in there, & we'll be happy to help you whenever you're ready!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Mike backed my 1-2 shift pressure back a couple times for me, the truck shifts firm as it should but not what I would call harsh. When I first installed the factory tech valve body it was a little much at light throttle It was great but not for a daily driver, but as I said Mike was able to make it the way I wanted. I drive the truck daily in all weather and it is fine, but at wide open throttle it will turn the tires on the 1-2 shift, and the rest of the shifts are firm and quick.The transmission runs much cooler and the fluid stays clean and red.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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Mike backed my 1-2 shift pressure back a couple times for me, the truck shifts firm as it should but not what I would call harsh. When I first installed the factory tech valve body it was a little much at light throttle It was great but not for a daily driver, but as I said Mike was able to make it the way I wanted. I drive the truck daily in all weather and it is fine, but at wide open throttle it will turn the tires on the 1-2 shift, and the rest of the shifts are firm and quick.The transmission runs much cooler and the fluid stays clean and red.

I just saw this post chuck, thanks for the info also. I am hoping to have that 1-2 shift backed off on mine as well. I don't even care if the tires spin on my truck at the 1-2 shift, ideally I would want a nice firm/crisp shift instead of what I have now which is a viloent jerk and tire chirp. Thanks!

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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instead of doing the FTVB you can do Factory Tech's valve body plate kit...it shifts more like stock during normal driving and hammers hard at WOT...plus its only 75.00
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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instead of doing the FTVB you can do Factory Tech's valve body plate kit...it shifts more like stock during normal driving and hammers hard at WOT...plus its only 75.00

Too Late, I had already installed the FTVB a few years ago. I think I was one of the first ones to get it when it came out for my tranny. :-/

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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02XLT I had the FTVB and beta tested the C plate kit from Gregg and I then sold the FTVB...I like the shifts of the plate kit myself
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Looking back I wish I had just gone with a tuner, but hopefully we can get the shifts the way I like it with the xcal2. Looking to order it by the end of the month. Just waiting for my Acura to sell first.

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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The mechanical way is a better way to improve shifts over the electronic meathod. not only are the shifts firmer but quicker plus ther is increased lube to critical transmission areas with the valve body or plate kit.

Let Mike back the pressures out through tuning for you and then if you are still not happy you can change the springs in the 1-2 accumaltor there are differant combinations that can be done as per Gregg Evans I have them written down somewhere if you should need them, but I feel confident that tuning will change this, also when you get a custom tune and some or all of the torque reduction is removed from the stock tune and the HP at the shift point increases the harshness is also less due to the added HP.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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Chuck why would you want to decrease tranny pressures? if you lower the tranny pressure then you are causing more slip in the cluthes...the quicker the clutch can apply the less slip you have on the friction and stell plates
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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I am only talking about lowering shift pressure at light to medium throttle when using the factory tech valvebody to soften the shifts slightly. Some transmissions shift much harder than others depending on internal leakage and transmission condition. Ehen I first installed mine wide open throttle was great fast crisp shift just what you want, but medium throttle, getting on highway every day driving it was way to harsh. After tuning the shifts were more tollarable for everyday driving.
 
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