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Thanks Mike....
Mike,
Just wanted to say thanks to you and Anita for hosting dyno day, I really enjoyed meeting you, Anita, Mark, Bob and everyone else. However, what I am enjoying the most is the latest tune you did for my FX4, I am very pleased with the results. Everything is improved shift points, throttle response, overall driveability etc. The one thing that is most impressive is how hard it pulls on the top end. Mike if you remember you said it should run like a "raped ape" after it had a little time for some adaptive learning, well you were right, had it to 95 MPH on the way home the other night and it was still pulling very hard with no sign of stopping, I just ran out of road. I know it has been said many times before but I will say it again, Mike you are the Man! It is very imressive what you can do with these trucks with your custom tunning. I would really like to put it on the dyno again to see what kind of numbers it is making now, i would estimate somewhere around 250 at the RWs at this point. Thanks again Mike and I will see you at the next dyno day.
Just wanted to say thanks to you and Anita for hosting dyno day, I really enjoyed meeting you, Anita, Mark, Bob and everyone else. However, what I am enjoying the most is the latest tune you did for my FX4, I am very pleased with the results. Everything is improved shift points, throttle response, overall driveability etc. The one thing that is most impressive is how hard it pulls on the top end. Mike if you remember you said it should run like a "raped ape" after it had a little time for some adaptive learning, well you were right, had it to 95 MPH on the way home the other night and it was still pulling very hard with no sign of stopping, I just ran out of road. I know it has been said many times before but I will say it again, Mike you are the Man! It is very imressive what you can do with these trucks with your custom tunning. I would really like to put it on the dyno again to see what kind of numbers it is making now, i would estimate somewhere around 250 at the RWs at this point. Thanks again Mike and I will see you at the next dyno day.
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Another thanks from me as well.
I had a great time meeting you guys and getting my tune done. Truck is running great. Havent really had time to go out and REALLY test my truck yet, but I will.
The shift characteristics are much different from the 1714. I dont know if I like the patterns just yet.. maybe some shift pressure changes will bring it back to where I like it.. Otherwise, Its great.
Really feels like it pulls harder it the upper RPM range compared to the 1714.
After I drive it for a week or so, I think I'll give you a call Mike and talk about what changes you think I need to make for the shift patters to better suit my liking.
Like I said, I havent really had a change to drive it hard, mostly just highway driving and inner city so far.
Excellant tuning! Recommened to everyone.
I had a blast, thanks Mike and Anita!
I had a great time meeting you guys and getting my tune done. Truck is running great. Havent really had time to go out and REALLY test my truck yet, but I will.
The shift characteristics are much different from the 1714. I dont know if I like the patterns just yet.. maybe some shift pressure changes will bring it back to where I like it.. Otherwise, Its great.
Really feels like it pulls harder it the upper RPM range compared to the 1714.
After I drive it for a week or so, I think I'll give you a call Mike and talk about what changes you think I need to make for the shift patters to better suit my liking.
Like I said, I havent really had a change to drive it hard, mostly just highway driving and inner city so far.
Excellant tuning! Recommened to everyone.
I had a blast, thanks Mike and Anita!
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Absolutely! Thanks Mike & Anita.
My Troyer Perf custom mail order tune was dead-on and I pulled 400/470 with beautiful hp/tq curves and nice A/F. Mike's promised a few more tweaks on my tune to squeeze a little more out of her, and I can't wait to get this thing to the track again. I enjoyed meeting everyone there.
My Troyer Perf custom mail order tune was dead-on and I pulled 400/470 with beautiful hp/tq curves and nice A/F. Mike's promised a few more tweaks on my tune to squeeze a little more out of her, and I can't wait to get this thing to the track again. I enjoyed meeting everyone there.
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Originally Posted by Slick_Sammy
Absolutely! Thanks Mike & Anita.
My Troyer Perf custom mail order tune was dead-on and I pulled 400/470 with beautiful hp/tq curves and nice A/F. Mike's promised a few more tweaks on my tune to squeeze a little more out of her, and I can't wait to get this thing to the track again. I enjoyed meeting everyone there.
My Troyer Perf custom mail order tune was dead-on and I pulled 400/470 with beautiful hp/tq curves and nice A/F. Mike's promised a few more tweaks on my tune to squeeze a little more out of her, and I can't wait to get this thing to the track again. I enjoyed meeting everyone there.
Ditto here!
They are a great bunch of people, had a blast!!
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Hi everyone!!
Thanks very much for all your kudo's, they are greatly appreciated - it's always a blast making more power.
One thing we had happen that I was very glad to see was on one truck (and I don't' remember if it was a 2004 or a 2005 F-150), we had it on the dyno, and on the first pull after the tune, it made a certain power number, I forget what it was - well, without even shutting it off, doing the next pull with all the temps the exact same (coolant, IAT, trans temp, engine oil temp, ambient temp, density altitude, etc.) the truck made 15 HP more than it had just a few minutes before, with NO CHANGES!
The reason I bring this up is that this was just one of the more dramatic examples of what adaptive strategy does especially in the 2004 & up F-150's - now usually it takes some miles of driving & drive cycles to make that much more power with no changes, but sometimes we'll see that much of a change just form one pull to the next right on the dyno. So I was delighted to have everyone see that happen in the real world.
And for SLRFX4 (it might have been his truck, I don't remember?), yes, I knew it would make even more power after you left - they always do, it's adaptive strategy at work. This is one reason why I try to point out to people not to judge their tuning by doing back-to-back dynos, as that just will not give you the real picture - it takes miles & drive cycles to really get the most out of it. Back when we tuned our very first 2004 5.4 3V F-150, with just 70 miles more on the vehicle and using a climate-controlled dyno cell & eddy-current dyno, we made 10 more HP at the wheels just by putting 70 more miles on it. I'm glad you're enjoying it!
For Slick Sammy - congratulations, you made even more power than I thought you would - that is GREAT power for a 4 PSI pulley on that truck! I was happy to see the A/F's dead-on as they should have been with your original tuning - heck, I wish all of the 2004 & newer non-Lightning F-150's would behave that well in bone-stock trim right from the factory!
For KHendrix - drive it for at least a month before making any decisions on the shifting, as our shifting is far better than the 1714 provides - the 1714's shifting is a bore compared to ours, and ours will also provide better performance, driveability, less downshifting, and numerous other benefits such as reduced slippage and a longer service life. You will see that the tranny shifting softens up a good bit in the 2004 & up F-150's as you drive it, due to adaptive strategy. Remember, you are making significantly more power all the time now, including during the shifts - and with more power the shifts also get firmer at the same pressure levels, so you should let adaptive strategy do it's thing. Additionally, with the XCal 2 you can very simply make your own adjustments to shift firmness - that is not something I need to do for you, you can very easily do that for yourself. I advise leaving it alone for at least a month of driving, to let it settle in and adapt to how you drive it, as that will have a significant effect that I think you will like - but you be the judge of that, of course.
Harborbreeze & everyone, thanks ever so much for making it out to this event - it takes YOU to make these things happen and for them to be enjoyable, and we can't thank you enough!
Thanks very much for all your kudo's, they are greatly appreciated - it's always a blast making more power.
One thing we had happen that I was very glad to see was on one truck (and I don't' remember if it was a 2004 or a 2005 F-150), we had it on the dyno, and on the first pull after the tune, it made a certain power number, I forget what it was - well, without even shutting it off, doing the next pull with all the temps the exact same (coolant, IAT, trans temp, engine oil temp, ambient temp, density altitude, etc.) the truck made 15 HP more than it had just a few minutes before, with NO CHANGES!
The reason I bring this up is that this was just one of the more dramatic examples of what adaptive strategy does especially in the 2004 & up F-150's - now usually it takes some miles of driving & drive cycles to make that much more power with no changes, but sometimes we'll see that much of a change just form one pull to the next right on the dyno. So I was delighted to have everyone see that happen in the real world.
And for SLRFX4 (it might have been his truck, I don't remember?), yes, I knew it would make even more power after you left - they always do, it's adaptive strategy at work. This is one reason why I try to point out to people not to judge their tuning by doing back-to-back dynos, as that just will not give you the real picture - it takes miles & drive cycles to really get the most out of it. Back when we tuned our very first 2004 5.4 3V F-150, with just 70 miles more on the vehicle and using a climate-controlled dyno cell & eddy-current dyno, we made 10 more HP at the wheels just by putting 70 more miles on it. I'm glad you're enjoying it!
For Slick Sammy - congratulations, you made even more power than I thought you would - that is GREAT power for a 4 PSI pulley on that truck! I was happy to see the A/F's dead-on as they should have been with your original tuning - heck, I wish all of the 2004 & newer non-Lightning F-150's would behave that well in bone-stock trim right from the factory!
For KHendrix - drive it for at least a month before making any decisions on the shifting, as our shifting is far better than the 1714 provides - the 1714's shifting is a bore compared to ours, and ours will also provide better performance, driveability, less downshifting, and numerous other benefits such as reduced slippage and a longer service life. You will see that the tranny shifting softens up a good bit in the 2004 & up F-150's as you drive it, due to adaptive strategy. Remember, you are making significantly more power all the time now, including during the shifts - and with more power the shifts also get firmer at the same pressure levels, so you should let adaptive strategy do it's thing. Additionally, with the XCal 2 you can very simply make your own adjustments to shift firmness - that is not something I need to do for you, you can very easily do that for yourself. I advise leaving it alone for at least a month of driving, to let it settle in and adapt to how you drive it, as that will have a significant effect that I think you will like - but you be the judge of that, of course.
Harborbreeze & everyone, thanks ever so much for making it out to this event - it takes YOU to make these things happen and for them to be enjoyable, and we can't thank you enough!
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Originally Posted by Superchips_Distributor
For KHendrix - drive it for at least a month before making any decisions on the shifting, as our shifting is far better than the 1714 provides - the 1714's shifting is a bore compared to ours, and ours will also provide better performance, driveability, less downshifting, and numerous other benefits such as reduced slippage and a longer service life. You will see that the tranny shifting softens up a good bit in the 2004 & up F-150's as you drive it, due to adaptive strategy. Remember, you are making significantly more power all the time now, including during the shifts - and with more power the shifts also get firmer at the same pressure levels, so you should let adaptive strategy do it's thing. Additionally, with the XCal 2 you can very simply make your own adjustments to shift firmness - that is not something I need to do for you, you can very easily do that for yourself. I advise leaving it alone for at least a month of driving, to let it settle in and adapt to how you drive it, as that will have a significant effect that I think you will like - but you be the judge of that, of course.
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From: sanford n.c. u.s.a.
it was really great to meet mike and anita and see first hand how the tuning is done.my car was as good as it could get and didnt have to change it at all.he calls it luck,i say he is just plain good.thanks again mike.
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As with everyone else, I want to thank Mike and Anita for a very enjoyable time! I wish I had taken a camera as the view out the back garage door of the dyno made an amazing backdrop to what was going on inside!
My truck was right on with the original tune (very few mods) and seemed to perform well on the dyno.
It was nice to put faces with names. Thanks again
My truck was right on with the original tune (very few mods) and seemed to perform well on the dyno.
It was nice to put faces with names. Thanks again
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HI Gil & Brian,
Thanks very much for you guys too, for showing up & for your very kind posts...........
Speaking of luck -- I remember when I said that, and the context in which I said it, and I still believe that, though I greatly appreciate GP's kind faith in our abilities - (and the fact that we have been privileged to tune GP's vehicles fr some years now).
What we were referring to was the fact that a number of vehicles there required absolutely *no* adjustments to their tuning whatsoever. The "mail order" custom tuning we provided them worked perfectly, flawlessly, and there was no room for improvement, the vehicles did exactly what we wanted them to do, sight unseen, and with ZERO data. And THAT is when I said well, yes,, certainly some skill is involved, but in all candor, I do feel that luck is also a part of a scenario n which the vehicle behaves so well that there should be ZERO changes made to the original tuning that was done without any data. And I still feel that way, though of course it makes anyone's ego feel great when they hear people say it's not luck, it's skill - it's a combination of both in reality I feel.
But the most important thing is making each vehicle owner happy with their vehicle and the results - and if we can manage to do *that*, then we're happy, too.
All in all, we are very grateful for a wonderful bunch of nice people - and for the opportunity to show more and more people just how things really work in the real world, what kinds of this are possible (and what aren't, in some cases!), and things like the effects of adaptive strategy as we had in that one truck that made 15 more HP on the dyno just form one pull to the next, etc. It's exciting for us to have people see just how these things really do turn out, how they work, how things can vary, etc - in other words, just how ti really works in the real world.
Many thanks to you all, and our best wishes for an enjoyable Thanksgiving holiday weekend!
Thanks very much for you guys too, for showing up & for your very kind posts...........
Speaking of luck -- I remember when I said that, and the context in which I said it, and I still believe that, though I greatly appreciate GP's kind faith in our abilities - (and the fact that we have been privileged to tune GP's vehicles fr some years now).
What we were referring to was the fact that a number of vehicles there required absolutely *no* adjustments to their tuning whatsoever. The "mail order" custom tuning we provided them worked perfectly, flawlessly, and there was no room for improvement, the vehicles did exactly what we wanted them to do, sight unseen, and with ZERO data. And THAT is when I said well, yes,, certainly some skill is involved, but in all candor, I do feel that luck is also a part of a scenario n which the vehicle behaves so well that there should be ZERO changes made to the original tuning that was done without any data. And I still feel that way, though of course it makes anyone's ego feel great when they hear people say it's not luck, it's skill - it's a combination of both in reality I feel.
But the most important thing is making each vehicle owner happy with their vehicle and the results - and if we can manage to do *that*, then we're happy, too.
All in all, we are very grateful for a wonderful bunch of nice people - and for the opportunity to show more and more people just how things really work in the real world, what kinds of this are possible (and what aren't, in some cases!), and things like the effects of adaptive strategy as we had in that one truck that made 15 more HP on the dyno just form one pull to the next, etc. It's exciting for us to have people see just how these things really do turn out, how they work, how things can vary, etc - in other words, just how ti really works in the real world.
Many thanks to you all, and our best wishes for an enjoyable Thanksgiving holiday weekend!