today i found the "hypertech hiperpack", it came with a small touchscreen (like a car GPS size), superchips has sometingh like that?, i know that superships has its reputation so i prefer it so tell me your comments please.
here is the page:
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/s...h_hyperpac.htm

 

Looks like you would be paying double for a one size fits all tuner. I would go with the custom tune

 

It shows a price of $799.99 for Ford trucks. The unit looks nice but here is the thing. First I have an Auto Enginuity scan tool. It’s a really nice software and hardware package. I paid about $450.00 for it. I bought the Bluetooth wireless package along with the Ford enhanced OBDII codes.

Standard OBDII code readers, without the enhanced codes, give you around 20 or so perimeters you can monitor and data log. The enhanced version of Ford gives me a few hundred. I haven’t counted them all up but it is a lot.

Also included with my Auto Enginuity package is software called Speed Tracer. That gives you the same ability of what you’re looking at. To do ¼ mile runs, horsepower and torque calculations, breaking distance and the ability to measure your drag coefficient.

So, I have a complete software and hardware package to measure and data log every possible OBDII perimeter, or computer input/output that Ford currently allows as well as measure performance perimeters, just like those listed in your link, for about $450.00

Now, this unit you’re looking at does have some tunes on it whereas my Auto Enginuity does not.

What is important is the tunes that come on the unit you’re looking at are NOT custom, they are NOT developed for your specific vehicle. Yes, they developed for your “type” of vehicle but not “specific” vehicle.

Big difference is every single vehicle, every single individual motor is different. Not by much but enough that a “standard” tune most likely will cost you some horsepower and torque.

Predator, another hand held flash programmer, had a “standard” tune that when used on stock Lightning’s caused some to blow up motors. That was because it was NOT tuned to a “specific” motor but rather a “type” of motor used in many parts of the country. It appears Predator, in wanting to get every possibly horsepower and torque, forgot about some parts of the country getting very cold. Very cold air, dry air, and on the edge of a lean tune (more horsepower and torque) means some motors blew up.

My personal advice is to stay away from “standard” tunes. You could take that $800 and buy a package like Auto Enginuity AND an XCalII from Mike with I believe 3 custom tunes for your vehicle and still not spend $800. A custom tune is just that, something for your specific motor. I know that Mike has people data log particular parameters and then fine tunes his program to get the most horsepower and torque while keeping the motor safe in ALL weather conditions.

I think Mike sells the Auto Tap software and hardware, which is like Auto Enginuity. The reason I did not go with Auto Tap is because I don’t own a Palm Pocket PC or laptop. I own a Dell pocket PC and Auto Enginuity has software that supports other Pocket PC platforms as well as Palms.

 

I read the advertisement, and I would love to know how they think they can get air/fuel ratio readings from an OBD2 logger.
A/F ratios are taken with a wideband Oxygen sesnor which must be installed in the exhaust system.
Without A/F logging as wel, you don't have much.
Custom tuning with complete datlogging is the besy way to go.......

 

No buts about it, Mike is the tune maestro and his canvas is the XCal2; believe it

 

Just so there is no confusion over my prior post in regards to A/F data logging let me make it clear that there is NO OBDII software/hardware that can data log A/F readings.

I can’t speak for other manufactures but Ford has no means of providing an A/F reading through the OBDII. As was mentioned in order to do that you need a Wide Band.

Not even the XCalII can read A/F with its OBDII feature. The XcalII does have the ability to read A/F with an external source and thus makes it a great all around unit. The $799.99 unit in the first post will not be able to read A/F through OBDII, at least not on Fords. It may have the same options as the XcalII with and external source but I did not read that as an option on their web page.

 

O1 - no confusion - I looked up this device on other web sites, and they are just promising more than we know they can deliver, like 45 HP, etc.

I have the SC2 with three custom tunes, and I am very happy with it.
It cost much less than the Hypertech device.
If you want good safe tuning it is the way to go.
Also, Troyer can re-tune the XC2 for new mods, or even a new vehicle.

In my case, I plan more serious mods in the future so I got an Innovative Motorsports LM-1 from Troyer which will do A/F among other things.
The cost of XC2 and LM-1 is about the same as this Hypertech.

 

From what I have read; Hypertec only provides it's gains on WOT and not at every RPM icrement. Hypertec Also is a well known company but does not provide custom tuning per individual needs so it is rated as a generic(so to speak) tune. Every vehicle is slightly different even if made in the same assembly plant. There is always a small margin of error allowed and so every vehicle is somewhat different. I originally looked at the Hyperpac and it definitely LOOKS cool so although the presentation is flashier the part that counts (THE TUNES) are the same and $800.00 dollars is alot of dough. For me I would like more a set-it and forget-it type of tune and know that it was vehicle specific. That's just my opinion. You won't know if you made a mistake unless you try it or read of others who have tried it. It does offer alot of features but will you literally use ALL of them. I think many here favor custom. You may pay cheaper BUT will you get quality?? and that's what counts. It is also a new product so read up a little more before you plunk down your hard earned cash. Good luck.

 

Last post may be misleading to others so It is corrected as follows.



You may pay cheaper for a hypertec BUT will you get quality?? and that's what counts.