I purchased a Superchips MicroTuner for my mustang. I forget the model(it's at home and I'm not). Well I don't have the mustang any more. I know these are VIN locked, but can that be unlocked by someone like the almighty Mike Troyer

And yes, before you all shoot flaming arrows at me....I know the xcal2 is a better tuner, but if I can save some dollars and still use my micro-tuner, I will be very happy.

I just ordered the efan and pullies kit from Troyer....ooh and I got the BLUE Sticker!!

 

Hi.

Sorry - won't work.

Your generic tuner ( probably a #1725) only has the car PCM codes in it.

You need a #1715 (for your model year) because it will contain the PCM codes for your truck.

On VIN locking - if you returned your tuner to stock upon sale of your 'stang, it would no longer be locked, and hence useable by another person for his FoMoCo car of appropriate vintage.

Advice? Flog the tuner to another car nut & put that cash towards a custom tuner, or a correct model generic one if you must.

If you are asking if your existing unit can be reprogrammed to make it work for your truck - SuperChips will need to do that, but I think it would be too costly to be worth it. Give their tech support guys a call and discuss it with them - ( number is: 1-888-227-2447).

Cheers
Grog

 

So basically it's a worthless pile of plastic and silicone? Nothing can be done so that I can use it on my truck?

 

Hi again.

No - not worthless. I revised my post.

Plus, you can sell it for a decent residual value - post it on some Mustang boards for example - there are plenty. As long as you returned it to stock first .

I sold my old 1715 very quickly and put the proceeds toward a custom tuner a while ago.

Cheers
Vic

 

Heh, well.....ummm.....yeah.....about returning it to stock....ummm.....well...

So since I didn't return it to stock, I can't sell it right? Unless I can somehow track down my old mustang and flash it back to stock without anyone knowing

And about resettig the tuner...that would have to go directly to Superchips? Dang, I wish I knew what model I had.

 

Hi.

Plug the specifics on your 'stang into this:

http://www.superchips.com/availability.phtml?p=12

out will pop your tuner model number

Cheers
Vic

 

Hi K1ng,

"And about resettig the tuner...that would have to go directly to Superchips? Dang, I wish I knew what model I had."

What Vic means to say is, scrap that idea. Just get a tuner that's specifically for your make, year, and model truck. And if it was me(Vic), I'd opt for the Xcal2.

Now, what I'd(Joey) do with your old tuner is try and find the new 'stang owner and give it to them. And show them how to use it. It's the *right* thing to do, if you can.

Best of luck,

Joey

 

Hi Joey;

Sorry - wrong.

I really did mean for King to ask SuperChips - they may or may not do it - but if they do, it will cost $$$. If was a non-contextual option, and probably not a realistic one.

As for giving to another user - not locked the way it is, 'cause without SuperChips doing that (again $$$), it IS useless.

This was not a shameless plug - stated or implied - for an Xcal2.
King already indicated in another post he wasn't going to touch the pcm.

Cheers
Grog

 

Vic, sorry for putting the wrong words in your mouth.

What I meant was, give the tuner to the person that bought the mustang. Wouldn't/shouldn't be locked, then. The owner could then return to stock before taking it into a dealer, and could return back to tunes when/if he wanted. A nice option to have for the new owner, I'd think.

All plugs are *shamless* when one is sincere in giving it.



Joey

 

Aye. Gotcha.

Yup, donating it to the 'new' owner would be a nice gesture, since otherwise it's unlikely to ever be used again, given what it would probably cost to resurrect it.

A waste of programming, silicon and electrons.

Too much landfill already.

Cheers
Vic

 

You can still read codes with it

Yes, I did say I wasn't going to touch the PCM....but then I remembered that I had that thing laying around somewhere.

Oh well, save up for an xcal.....maybe Christmas. I want to get the following mods done before getting the tune though

Efans, Pullies, Intake, Exhaust

Thought about gears, but I don't think I'm going to do them in this truck. I did in my old truck and mustang, but I don't think I can this time.......whatever, we'll see

 

Hi. There ya go, King - see, not worthless - you now have code scanner

Cheers
Grog-on-a-log

 

Hi Krimson King,

By not returning the Mustang back to ti's stock tuning, you turned that 1725 into a paperweight that is only capable of scanning purely generic OBD-II codes on most OBD-II non-CAN FoMoCo vehicles - meaning those 1996-2004 FoMoCo's that still use the older EEC-V type of PCM. It cannot scan any of the enhanced or manufacturer-specific diagnostic codes, nor can it scan any codes on any of the newer CAN vehicles, like the 2004 & up F-150, or the 2005 & up Mustang, or the 6.0 Powerstroke diesels, etc.

Now it *can* be sent back in to Superchips and for a fee (and a hefty one) they can unlock it so it can be used on another CAR - bit it can never be used on any truck, as it's a 1725 unit, not a 1715 which is what you would need to be able to use a MAX series Micro Tuner to flash a 2001 gas engine truck. So no, I can't unlock it here for you, it would have to go back to the manufacturer, who can then unlock it so it can be used on another CAR, and would charge you a hefty fee - but it can still never used on any truck.

As others mentioned, you could offer to sell it to the new owner of the Mustang at a discounted price, and use that money to help offset some of the cost of having us to do a proper custom tune on that 2001 F-150 in the XCalibrator 2 - and our tuning will net you 2-3 times the amount of raw power gain compared to a 1715 Micro Tuner, generally speaking, as well as provide far better driveability and numerous other aspects, as we go much further into the tuning than any chipmaker does.

For the fee it would cost you to have Superchips unlock that unit, it's really not worth doing that and then trying to sell it, as you'd lose even more money - it would be nice if you could offer it to the new owner of that Mustang, and I'm sure he/she would appreciate being able to go back to their stock factory tuning.

There is one other option I can offer you, if it would be of any help - since you just ordered our e-fans & underdrive pulley setup, if that was done in the last 30 days or so we can cut you a special deal on the XCalibrator 2 and just treat it like it was all a package deal, like you had bought everything all at once - that will reduce the cost of the XCalibrator 2 significantly, and that just might be enough to make the difference for you - of course, only you can decide if that will work for you, and we'll need to discuss that by phone. If you'd like to explore that option, please just give us a call at our number listed below, and tell our staff your F-150 Online screen name and that Mike said to ask for him personally - and I'll take the call. If I'm on another line at the time (which is always possible), I will return your call as soon as possible & go over this with you to see if that might help you - please understand that I'm not trying to play salesman here, it's really just a thought in case it might work for you.

Best of luck whatever you decide,

 

Heh...you ARE a salesman.....haha. Just kidding.

Well, I may be giving you a call tomorrow. I can't believe you b4st4rds talked me into this!

 

Hi KK,

>>>Well, I may be giving you a call tomorrow. I can't believe you b4st4rds talked me into this!<<<

Ha-ha! If it were that easy we'd be rich!

All kidding aside, id you decide to call (and again, if you do call please make sure to give our staff your F-150 Online screen name and ask for me personally, as I have alerted everyone that you may call, and that if you do, put you thru to me) we will try to give you an offer that will help you on this as best we can - if you think it's worthwhile once you hear it, then great - and if you don't think it works for you, then we'll understand perfectly, so we won't be offended! I guess it really stems from being a motorhead myself, so I just really hate seeing anyone that has been kind enough to purchase other performance parts for their vehicle from us not have the single best bang for the buck, which is our custom tuning - so I suppose it's really that, along with your other situation, is why we're willing to try to offer you a deal that we hope might make it worthwhile to you - now of course, only you can be the judge of whether this will work for you or not!