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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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1714 Question?

I have a 1715 for my 98 and have been very happy with it. I just ordered a 1714 for my new 04 Super Crew F-150 Lariat. Is there or will there be a customer programmer like the 1714? I've copied and pasted a paragraph from Mike Troyer. I had no idea there was another programmer that would of given me additional performance over the 1715. The reason for my question is.... I've order the 1714 from Troyer, but should I have waited for a customer 1714 programmer? Do you understand my question Mike?

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The #1715 Micro Tuner is the standard Superchips performance tuning, whereas the #9100 Micro Tuner allows us to load our *custom* tuning to get you the absolute highest power & performance gains, as does our #5500 chip (single custom program) and our #6600 chip (4 different custom programs). So the 3 different products that you can get our custom tuning in (again, even for a bone-stock vehicle) would be the 5500 (single custom program chip), the 6600 (4-custom program chip) and the 9100 (3-custom program Micro Tuner, the "flash" device you don't have to touch the PCM to use).

Thanks...

After thought...... Because I spent soooooo much on a new 04 Lariat, its probably not good that my wife know I'm buying a chip. LOL, Its already ordered....hehe, but to keep it hidden for a little while longer...... I plan on using the 87 program. She's smart enough to know 91 means programmer is NOW installed. Will I notice performance whith the 87 octane program? I want to swap the 275/R16/18 with either a 285 or maybe even a 305..... am I going to loose allot of low-end? The truck looks toooooo low and almost as if my grandfather should be driving it. I was to sport it up some. The Toyo mud tires are awesome, but they don't come any smaller than 35's.

I've posted the new truck as well as the truck that was totalled. I love the new 04, but the 02 looked sooooooo much cooler.



 

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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Hi Rich,

What you'll want to do is use the Search feature to retrieve & read any of our numerous previous posts on the differences between the 1714 and our custom tuning in the 2004 F-150's, both in terms of results & the hardware. We've gone over this a number of times, so you can easily retrieve that info via the Search feature.

Congratulations on your new 2004 SuperCrew Lariat, same thing we bought. I didn't know (or didn't remember) that your '02 was totaled, I hope nobody was hurt....................

With regard to the 87 octane tuning results on the 2004, figure that you'll know basically what to expect from your previous 1715 experience - that's not much different for 2004, figure about 7-8 HP on the standard tuning and 11-13 Hp with our custom tuning. You can see all of this by looking up the posts I described above on this topic via Search.

We have discussed this issue of taller tires before, as I'm sure you'll remember - so you already know that installing taller tires is always going to hurt performance. There's a certain amount of additional tire height that vehicle owners can, for lack of a better term, "make up for" by adding more power & correcting the speedometer with our tuning. It's up to each individual driver to decide what he or she can tolerate in this regard, but to give you just a loose general guideline, I'd say anything more than 1.0 inch taller on the tires in the 2004 F-150 SC Lariat you have there, and you should do a gear ratio change to help the motor get back to turning the rpms it needs to for a given speed & gear. So make sure and check out the exact tire height of both your stock tires and whatever tires you are considering, and make sure it's within that not more than 1" taller range, before laying out the dough.

Remember, if you're trying to reduce the gap between the top of the tires and the bottom of the wheel well opening (the wheel well gap), that cannot be done by installing taller tires - that can be done only by actually *lowering* the vehicle. You can use a taller tire to give that big gap a better *perspective* with a taller tire sidewall, but you can't actually reduce that gap other than by lowering the truck. There are a couple of decent lowering kits for the 2WD 2004 F-150, but the 4WD's are another matter - right now there's the AirRide setup (very expensive), and not much else that we like. We're going to be dropping or 2004 SuperCrew Lariat 4x4 here shortly.

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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Unhappy Mike, Sorry......

Mike sorry for not searching my question. Will you please explain how the search works. I clicked search..... put in 1714 vs. customer programmer and got very little info. For any of us who haven't used the search very often... will you please explain it?

I think I will go with the BFG AT KO 285/55/20. That shouldn't make too much of a difference between that size and the stock 275's. Do you see any problem with this? I'd like a mud terrain tire, but have not found one that rates very low in highway noise. I spend 98% of my time on the highway. I simply want the truck to look beefier..... if that makes sense? It looks like my grandpa's truck. I love the Toyo Mud Terrian, but their smallest is a 35". I was told they will have a 33" in November. Do you think the 33" would require different gearing?

I'm waiting on my 1714 from you guys. Since its already been paid for..... do you think I should call you and discuss the custom programmer? Do you think I would benifit from a customer vs. the 1714. I figure now is the perfect time to decide.

I really appreciate your help. I'm sure you get tired answering the same questions. Please advise us on the search and hopefully it will eliminate some of the same questions.

I never knew a larger tire would not help fill the gap around the wheel well. Will the 20" rims help at all? If you think it won't kill me in performance and gas mileage.... I would like the following.
33" Toyo M/T with 20" rims. I would also use an aftermarket kit that raises the front end 2 to 2 1/2" for extra clearance.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Rich - some helpful search tips:

Start with broad generic terms and get more specific if you get to many results. For example:

Start with "1714" and the appropriate forum.

Try again with all forums.

Still didn't find what you needed? Try "1714 Custom" to find posts with the words 1714 and custom in it.

A little practice will get you results. Enjoy!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Talking Thank you.....

Thanks for the info. I appreciate the feedback.
 
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