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I have a 1997 f150 with a 4.2 v6 with a mac products intake and a flowmaster exhaust system. Which chip would be better for me, the predator performance chip or should I spend the extra money and buy the sct 9100. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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From: irwin,pa
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after the issues i had with diablo i wouldn't run their product if it was free! my buddy took his predator orogrammer out odf his avalanche- even with tweaking the tune and uploading updated one - on the dybo itw as less than oem tune- all these features but i have yet to see dyno numbers or 1/4 mile times
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Hi a33,
Our custom tuning is what will actually get your 4.2 V6 the best results - and you can get that from us in either a single program chip, a multi-program chip, or the multi-program Micro Tuner (9100) you spoke of - that's strictly up to you.
However, one thing I would urge you to forget about is trying to shop tuning based on price - that is virtually always a mistake. If you're lucky in this business, you get what you pay for, and performance tuning is simply one thing that you *never* do based on price - nobody who does world-class work is going to be "cheap," or compete on price. Just like you don't bet on the NASCAR race team with the lowest budget.
We've tuned more F-150's (including the 4.2 V6's) than anyone else aside from Ford of course, so we know their characteristics & needs very well. They respond to our custom tuning with excellent power & performance gains, and we can do anything from the typical daily driver type of programs to drag strip style tunes, fuel economy tunes, towing tunes, etc. The 4.2 V6's have some unique inherent problems - many of them can't even go open loop from the factory, and all of them are very weak below about 2500 rpm, which really hurts driveability, throttle response & mpg, too - we fix all of that, and really wake the 4.2 V6 up.
If you'd like to go over this in more detail, spend some time talking to us, get the exact costs, results, details, etc., please give us a call at our number listed below & we'll be happy to help. By all means take some time to read the boards here to see what other F-150 owners have to say about our tuning, too.
Best of luck whatever you decide!
Our custom tuning is what will actually get your 4.2 V6 the best results - and you can get that from us in either a single program chip, a multi-program chip, or the multi-program Micro Tuner (9100) you spoke of - that's strictly up to you.
However, one thing I would urge you to forget about is trying to shop tuning based on price - that is virtually always a mistake. If you're lucky in this business, you get what you pay for, and performance tuning is simply one thing that you *never* do based on price - nobody who does world-class work is going to be "cheap," or compete on price. Just like you don't bet on the NASCAR race team with the lowest budget.
We've tuned more F-150's (including the 4.2 V6's) than anyone else aside from Ford of course, so we know their characteristics & needs very well. They respond to our custom tuning with excellent power & performance gains, and we can do anything from the typical daily driver type of programs to drag strip style tunes, fuel economy tunes, towing tunes, etc. The 4.2 V6's have some unique inherent problems - many of them can't even go open loop from the factory, and all of them are very weak below about 2500 rpm, which really hurts driveability, throttle response & mpg, too - we fix all of that, and really wake the 4.2 V6 up.
If you'd like to go over this in more detail, spend some time talking to us, get the exact costs, results, details, etc., please give us a call at our number listed below & we'll be happy to help. By all means take some time to read the boards here to see what other F-150 owners have to say about our tuning, too.
Best of luck whatever you decide!
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I have decided on the 9100 and I was just wondering what kind of performance numbers will I receive with this chip. Any info from someone with a v6 who has had this done to there truck would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't have any actual performance numbers but I have had the 9100 downloaded into my truck, a 2000 S/C w/ auto, for about 4-5 months now, on the 93 oct. performance program. It feels like it has more power at any throttle position, power that you can feel for sure. I have also had the great pleasure of flat out smoking a 99 Dodge standard cab w/ 318 and dual exhaust. Unfornatily for the Dodge guy he had another coworker w/ him that also has a Dodge 360 and has not let him forget that a V6 flat out smoked him. Of all the performance products I have installed on my truck the programmer has produced twice or more hp than anything else. The drivability of your truck will improve greatily. It is money that I do not regret spending. Also I purchased mine from Mike at Troyer Performance.
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Hi a33,
This info just gives you a brief idea about the power gain ranges & variances, and roughly about what the average is, etc........................
How much Hp & torque you will gain in your particular 4.2 V6 truck depends on a number of things - firstly, who is doing the actual custom tuning - if that is us here at Troyer Performance, then on good premium gas we'll usually see anywhere from a low of about 16 HP to a tad over 25 HP gains at the rear wheels - this depends on the strategy in each individual vehicle's PCM, as not all 4.2 V6's are the same. These F-150's have more different PCM software revisions each model year than any other vehicle we've ever seen, whether it's a V6 or a V8 - and some of them are really crippled in the 4.2 V6's especially. So I'd say that in the very best factory tunes for 4.2 V6 F-150's we'll get 16 Hp more at the wheels, and on the worst, as much as a bit over 25 HP at the rear wheels - and these are the *peak* gains we're talking about - in other areas "below the curve," the power gains are even larger. On average, most 4.2 V6 owners see about a 20 HP gain in peak power, and a tad over 30 lbs./ft. of torque.
The 4.2 V6 also has an inherent problem in all PCM codes of being weak below about 2500 rpm, and we take care of that, too - just fixing that alone really helps acceleration and overall driveability on top of the raw peak power gains.
Performance-wise, that will vary not only like the power gains numbers do based on the above factors, but also due to the vehicle's actual configuration - 4x2 or 4x4, short cab, extended cab, bed length, does it have the towing or Offroad packages, etc., etc. - you can have a 4.2 V6 "stripper" weighing in at maybe about 4400 lbs., or an extended cab 4x4 at an easy 5500+ lbs! On average, figure that you'll see about a half-second off the 1/4 mile times on the 4.2 V6's, and some of them see almost twice that much improvement - it just depends on each vehicle's configuration/weight/gearing & tire combination/PCM revision.
That's just some general info, to give you a rough idea of the ranges, variances, etc.
This info just gives you a brief idea about the power gain ranges & variances, and roughly about what the average is, etc........................
How much Hp & torque you will gain in your particular 4.2 V6 truck depends on a number of things - firstly, who is doing the actual custom tuning - if that is us here at Troyer Performance, then on good premium gas we'll usually see anywhere from a low of about 16 HP to a tad over 25 HP gains at the rear wheels - this depends on the strategy in each individual vehicle's PCM, as not all 4.2 V6's are the same. These F-150's have more different PCM software revisions each model year than any other vehicle we've ever seen, whether it's a V6 or a V8 - and some of them are really crippled in the 4.2 V6's especially. So I'd say that in the very best factory tunes for 4.2 V6 F-150's we'll get 16 Hp more at the wheels, and on the worst, as much as a bit over 25 HP at the rear wheels - and these are the *peak* gains we're talking about - in other areas "below the curve," the power gains are even larger. On average, most 4.2 V6 owners see about a 20 HP gain in peak power, and a tad over 30 lbs./ft. of torque.
The 4.2 V6 also has an inherent problem in all PCM codes of being weak below about 2500 rpm, and we take care of that, too - just fixing that alone really helps acceleration and overall driveability on top of the raw peak power gains.
Performance-wise, that will vary not only like the power gains numbers do based on the above factors, but also due to the vehicle's actual configuration - 4x2 or 4x4, short cab, extended cab, bed length, does it have the towing or Offroad packages, etc., etc. - you can have a 4.2 V6 "stripper" weighing in at maybe about 4400 lbs., or an extended cab 4x4 at an easy 5500+ lbs! On average, figure that you'll see about a half-second off the 1/4 mile times on the 4.2 V6's, and some of them see almost twice that much improvement - it just depends on each vehicle's configuration/weight/gearing & tire combination/PCM revision.
That's just some general info, to give you a rough idea of the ranges, variances, etc.