I did a search here but came up w/nothing. I've heard others talk about a Western Diesel chip and was wondering how it compaired to the Superchip's Diesel chip.

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You may want to ask that question here:
www.ford-diesel.com

That's the Super Duty equivalent to this site.

 

I am considering an F-250. What type of performance do you get from the 7.3L engine and how much difference did the superchip make? Sounds like you have a nice truck!!

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1999 F-150 Lariat SC 2 WD, White/Silver, 5.4L, 3.55LS, K & N FIPK, Superchip, underdrive pulley set, Dynomax Super Turbo Series Exhaust, six disc CD changer, towing package and captain chairs

 

F150Sven: I have!!! I got feedback from a guy there that sells the Western Diesel chip. It was very bias towards that chip. I want to hear from Mike because he tends to be less bias and actually gets into the "guts" of the question

Mikey88: I'm towing a 30'travel trailer w/no problems. When not towing, I'm getting fuel milage around 20mpg for combined driving (city/country roads/stop&go traffic) Pulling the trailer, I'm seeing in the high 14mpg IF I keep it under 65mph. I've seen milage over 22 unloaded, on interstate. I've had the Superchip in ever since I went over 500miles on the engine. Never towed w/out it. I couldn't tell you the difference from having the chip and not having it since I added the chip so soon after getting the truck. It does diffinately get up and get moving though. It's a really big truck but it drives great. If you're really interested in one, go to Ford and test drive "everything" they have in stock. That's what I did, then I picked the best things that I liked from all the trucks and ordered just what I wanted. I only goofed up on the tow mirrors and now am having to order them through Ford. Also check out the towing section here. Lots more info there about these trucks in use.

 

HI Tina,

I really can't tell you anything specific about the Western chip for the diesels, it seems like everyone and their brother (or sister!) is trying to be a chipmaker these days for the Powerstrokes.

I can tell you, however, that while it's easy to make more power in the Powerstroke diesel, you have to be careful with exhaust gas temperatures and other considerations. That is why we offer 3 different power levels for that engine, to suit any and all needs.

There are rumors over on that site of how other chips were supposedly making more power with lower exhaust gas temperatures, but that simply is not possible, and is nothing more than unfounded rumor, based on all the testing of other Powerstroke chips that Superchips has tested. They can't change the laws of physics. Nobody has done the amount of R&D on programming Powerstroke disels as Superchips has, as they were the first company to make a chip for the Powerstroke (1995) and still do the most R&D on that engine in every vehicle Ford uses it in, each model year. Prior to the first chip ever being released, over 2 solid *years* of R&D was done, with extremely thorough testing done all over the country, and even an independant lab in Ontario California was involved in testing & verifying all the power gains and the fuel mileage gains, something no other company has done to date for the Powerstroke. This was done to insure safety was maintained when adding this much power to that engine, so this gives you a idea of just how very thorough all of the Powerstroke Superchip R&D is.

Powerstroke diesel programming requires many considerations that you don't have in gasoline engines, and as a result they require, generally speaking, more R&D in comparison. Superchips places a priority on the Powerstrokes each year, due of course to the great need to bring these engines back up to the power levels they were originally designed to make from International, who is the actual manufacturer of that engine. Ford very sharply de-tunes these engines, all the way down to just 235 hp & 500 lbs./ft. of torque for the 1999 & 2000 units.
International makes that very same engine available BONE-STOCK in power levels all the way up to 325 hp & 675 lbs./ft. of torque, just to give you an idea of how conservative Ford is with this engine.

However, you have to be careful adding power, as I mentioned before. We offer the Powerstroke Superchip in 3 different power-adding levels; the first is what you are using, and it adds 50 horsepower and 100 lbs./ft. of torque, while getting better fuel mileage and even being 50-state emissions certified. I don't know of another company making a chip for that engine that adds power at every throttle position while still maintaining emissions certification in all 50 states. The "50/100 program", as we refer to it, represent the maximum power gain that can be made without having to do other modifications to the vehicle, and consequently, most people are using the 50/100 program.

Then from there you step up to the "Offroad" version, which adds 70-75 horsepower, and 125-130 lbs./ft. of torque. This program requires something to open up the intake, such as a K&N air filter or airbox elimination kit, and we also suggest opening up the exhaust if you're going to be running hard with this program.

And last, there is our "Extreme" program for the Powerstroke diesel, which adds 100 horsepower and a massive 200 lbs./ft. of torque. This program requires an opened intake and exhaust, as well as an exhaust gas temperature gauge. As long as the intake & exhaust are opened up, the EGT's will stay in line. And by opened up, I mean bigger downpipes as well as a free-flowing exhaust system, and a K&N air filter or airbox elimination kit, those are a *must* with the Extreme program.

So while I don't really have a direct answer to your question Tina (sorry!), that's what I can tell you about what Superchips has been and is doing on the Powerstrokes with regards to the R&D, and the various power output levels available. And should anyone want to go even further, we can do that as well.

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

Thanks Mike Even though you didn't know anything about the Western Diesel (can't believe you were finally stumped on something chip related!!!) You did add some very informative info on the Superchip. Some of those other chips salespersons will simply say "this is the best chip for you" without any real facts to back up their claim. Thanks again

 

Hi Tina,

You're very welcome, & sorry I couldn't give you more specific info on that company.



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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer