Superchip and the Factory Theft system
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Superchip and the Factory Theft system
A while back I tried to get a superchip. but my factory theft system wouldn't let me chip it, so I had to return it. Here is my question has anyone been able to superchip their truck with that darn blink theft light working? Also have Superchips found away to get around the factory theft? I would really like to know this a.s.a.p. I might even give Mike a call tomorrow to get the exact details
99' Ford F-150 XL Sport (Black)
V-6 4.2L Manual 3.55 Class III Tow PKG.
Headlight covers (AVS)
Bug Deflector II (AVS)
Wiper Cowl (Lund)
Window Tint (Lund)
Color Keyed Carpet
Bed Cover (Lund)
Tail Light Covers (V-Tech)
Future Mods
Airaid (Just ordered it about 30 minutes ago)
Superchip (I hope)
99' Ford F-150 XL Sport (Black)
V-6 4.2L Manual 3.55 Class III Tow PKG.
Headlight covers (AVS)
Bug Deflector II (AVS)
Wiper Cowl (Lund)
Window Tint (Lund)
Color Keyed Carpet
Bed Cover (Lund)
Tail Light Covers (V-Tech)
Future Mods
Airaid (Just ordered it about 30 minutes ago)
Superchip (I hope)
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This maybe a very stupied question, but that "THEFT" light ain't suppose to blinking when the truck is off??? when the ignition in my truck is not on it blinks all the time.
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99 F-150 4.2L
True duals W/Magnaflows
Jacobs Ignition
K&N filtercharger
Custom programed chip
throttle body spacer
ported&polished throttle body
ported mass air flow sensor
Black Magic electric fan
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99 F-150 4.2L
True duals W/Magnaflows
Jacobs Ignition
K&N filtercharger
Custom programed chip
throttle body spacer
ported&polished throttle body
ported mass air flow sensor
Black Magic electric fan
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Just wondering what does the "theft" light have to do with anything? My 2000 blinks when the key is off as it is supposed too. I have no problems at all with my superchip(6 months and my foots still through the floor!!!). I still don't understand way you had it sent back???
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My 2000 F-150
It's A KC Thing....You Wouldn't Understand!!!
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My 2000 F-150
It's A KC Thing....You Wouldn't Understand!!!
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Not sure about '99s, but for '00, the blinking Theft light in the dash is for the radio only. The anti-theft ignition system (PATS) doesn't have any visible indicators and seems to have no affect on the operation of a Superchip... at least not on either of my vehicles! 
Headless may have another system installed???
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1997 4x4 Expedition- 4.6L, true dual exhaust w/glass-packs, K&N air filter, SuperChip, airbox mods, Edelbrock shocks, 285/75R16 BFG ATs, 2000 "XLT" wheels, 4.10 gears, Auburn LS, Clarion In-dash CD player, Smitty Bilt push bars and nerf bars.
2000 4x2 F150 XLT Reg. Cab LWB- 5.4L, Tow Pkg, 3.55LS, CD player,Remote Keyless Entry, Sliding back glass, Special Appearance Pkg., tinted windows, Line-X bedliner, K&N air filter, SuperChip, airbox mods, 285/60R16 Goodyear Eagle GT IIs and Prime #155 wheels.
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Headless may have another system installed???
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1997 4x4 Expedition- 4.6L, true dual exhaust w/glass-packs, K&N air filter, SuperChip, airbox mods, Edelbrock shocks, 285/75R16 BFG ATs, 2000 "XLT" wheels, 4.10 gears, Auburn LS, Clarion In-dash CD player, Smitty Bilt push bars and nerf bars.
2000 4x2 F150 XLT Reg. Cab LWB- 5.4L, Tow Pkg, 3.55LS, CD player,Remote Keyless Entry, Sliding back glass, Special Appearance Pkg., tinted windows, Line-X bedliner, K&N air filter, SuperChip, airbox mods, 285/60R16 Goodyear Eagle GT IIs and Prime #155 wheels.
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Mike,
Thanks for all your help. esp. the webpage. Wow, that looks a little to complicated for me to do. Could there be any other reason, for that particular superchip I purchased not to work and cause my truck not to start and my theft like blink wildly?
Thanks for all your help. esp. the webpage. Wow, that looks a little to complicated for me to do. Could there be any other reason, for that particular superchip I purchased not to work and cause my truck not to start and my theft like blink wildly?
MIKE, I just want to let you know that I am a victum of the "jumper box". I just want to say to anyone that can't get their chip to work take it to either mike or some kind of eletronics shop. I was very lucky in that there is a local chip vendor near where I live that got my chip to work. So if you have some kind of problem don't give up.
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Actually..the blinking theft light is NOT for the radio in the 2000s. Pg. 84 of the owners manual, April 2000 printing says:
"Theft indicator
When the ignition is OFF, the theft indicator will flash briefly every two seconds to indicate the anti-theft system is protecting your vehicle."
On the next page, it outlines how to program a spare SecuriLock PATS key and it specifically mentions the THEFT light several times. I just programmed a spare PATS key using the procedure. If the theft light illuminates for 3 seconds after the new key is programmed then goes out, the key was programmed successfully.
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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, Superchip, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55 rear, class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, Heavy duty shocks, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, factory leather wrapped steering wheel, FORD bedliner, FORD black tubular cab steps, K&N air filter, mar-hyde rubberized undercoating, Modine climate filtration system, Bugflector II, Mobil 1 oil and filter, Build date 7/00
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"Theft indicator
When the ignition is OFF, the theft indicator will flash briefly every two seconds to indicate the anti-theft system is protecting your vehicle."
On the next page, it outlines how to program a spare SecuriLock PATS key and it specifically mentions the THEFT light several times. I just programmed a spare PATS key using the procedure. If the theft light illuminates for 3 seconds after the new key is programmed then goes out, the key was programmed successfully.
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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, Superchip, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55 rear, class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, Heavy duty shocks, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, factory leather wrapped steering wheel, FORD bedliner, FORD black tubular cab steps, K&N air filter, mar-hyde rubberized undercoating, Modine climate filtration system, Bugflector II, Mobil 1 oil and filter, Build date 7/00
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Hi Headless,
Generally it's not a problem. Ford has had occasional problems with their PATS system, requiring replacement of the keys and the vehicle's computer.
Ford introduced the PATS system in the F-150 starting in 1999, and there are many 1999 & newer F-150's with Superchips and the PATS system. This is something we've had to deal with in a number of automakers, GM, BMW, Ford, etc., and it's usually not a problem.
To date here at Performance, we've had problems with only 2 F-150's with the PATS system possibly not allowing the Superchip to work, and both were 1999 4.2 V-6 models, both automatics. In both cases, we did not have access to the vehicle to be able to verify that it actually was a PATS problem, but that is what we're surmising to be the problem.
It doesn't sound to me like you had a PATS-related problem, from that flashing theft light during starting (it's always going to flash slowly when the truck is off, of course) it sounds more like you have one of what we call the "jumper boxes", where the manufacturer mistakenly left open a jumper or pair of jumpers that controls the communications state of the connector where the Superchip attaches on the back of the Ford computer. This is very easy to fix, by closing the jumper(s). Of course we don't have the vehicle here to know for *certain*, but this is what it sounds like to me from your description.
You might want to give us a call to go over this in a bit more detail, we'll be happy to, our number is below.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
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Generally it's not a problem. Ford has had occasional problems with their PATS system, requiring replacement of the keys and the vehicle's computer.
Ford introduced the PATS system in the F-150 starting in 1999, and there are many 1999 & newer F-150's with Superchips and the PATS system. This is something we've had to deal with in a number of automakers, GM, BMW, Ford, etc., and it's usually not a problem.
To date here at Performance, we've had problems with only 2 F-150's with the PATS system possibly not allowing the Superchip to work, and both were 1999 4.2 V-6 models, both automatics. In both cases, we did not have access to the vehicle to be able to verify that it actually was a PATS problem, but that is what we're surmising to be the problem.
It doesn't sound to me like you had a PATS-related problem, from that flashing theft light during starting (it's always going to flash slowly when the truck is off, of course) it sounds more like you have one of what we call the "jumper boxes", where the manufacturer mistakenly left open a jumper or pair of jumpers that controls the communications state of the connector where the Superchip attaches on the back of the Ford computer. This is very easy to fix, by closing the jumper(s). Of course we don't have the vehicle here to know for *certain*, but this is what it sounds like to me from your description.
You might want to give us a call to go over this in a bit more detail, we'll be happy to, our number is below.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
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HI Headless,
No, I'm pretty certain you have the jumper mis-configuration problem from the factory, and the only way to take care of it is to close the jumper. That rapidly blinking theft light is the dead give-away on this, as that happens when the computer's external data path is engaged (by attaching the Superchip) but no communication is taking place.
For our customers here at Performance, we can arrange for that to be done for you, so please feel free to give us a call if you'd like to go over the details, and then you can give that information some thought and decide if that will work for you or not. Worst-case you may decide that won't work for you, but at least there is this option, so just give us a shout and we can go over that with you at your convenience.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer
No, I'm pretty certain you have the jumper mis-configuration problem from the factory, and the only way to take care of it is to close the jumper. That rapidly blinking theft light is the dead give-away on this, as that happens when the computer's external data path is engaged (by attaching the Superchip) but no communication is taking place.
For our customers here at Performance, we can arrange for that to be done for you, so please feel free to give us a call if you'd like to go over the details, and then you can give that information some thought and decide if that will work for you or not. Worst-case you may decide that won't work for you, but at least there is this option, so just give us a shout and we can go over that with you at your convenience.
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer