Mike,

I am submitting my order through the F150online's link to you. Question regarding the chip and my truck:

I had my original engine swapped out due to piston slap. I now have the 2000 series 5.4 installed. Will this make any difference regarding the code on the computer and the matching superchip, since it originally was specified for the first engine that the truck came with?

-kindest regards

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1999 F150 4x4, wedgewood blue, 5.4l auto, Manick brush guard, Duraliner, KC Hilites, surf rod holders, tinted windows, K&N air filter without airbox, Velocity air intake tube, Midas Performance muffler with dual pipes, toolbox, Uniden CB with whip and now, enjoying a new reprieve on life with a 2000 series 5.4L (swapped engine due to Piston Slap).

 

Dear wjt,

Excellent question, and that can sometimes happen. But more often than not, they don't reflash the computer when they replace the engine anymore, it's now mainly when they replace the automatic transmission. If they did reflash the computer, there should be a record of it in your paperwork, it would say something about reprogramming the ECU, or PCM, both of which are merely abbreviations for your computer.

If that was done, then what will happen is that your truck will not start with the original code Superchip. If that happens, it's easy to fix, so don't worry. When they do a reflash they are required by Federal law to place a "Notice of Modification" sticker in a prominent location under the hood. It;'s a 2" X 3" white sticker and they will write in what they did on it. All we need to do is to identify the new code, if the computer was actually reflashed, and then load your Superchip with the matching code.

So if this happens, it'll be an easy fix!

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html

[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 04-03-2000).]

 

Mike,

That's interesting. I've had my computer reflashed a couple of times already, and they have not mentioned anything out of the ordinary about it. I imagine that that I'll be asking them this question, however, do you think that they utilize the same code when they reprogram the computer? If not, I'll probably be returning the chip back to you for reprogamming itself if this is the case.

-kindest regards



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1999 F150 4x4, wedgewood blue, 5.4l auto, Manick brush guard, Duraliner, KC Hilites, surf rod holders, tinted windows, K&N air filter without airbox, Velocity air intake tube, Midas Performance muffler with dual pipes, toolbox, Uniden CB with whip and now, enjoying a new reprieve on life with a 2000 series 5.4L (swapped engine due to Piston Slap).

 

Dear wjt,

Generally they do not reflash it to the same code, so we may need to deal with this. Just so you'll know, they are supposed to put that sticker that I described above under the hood, usually right there in plain sight on the upper radiator support. They are supposed to fill in the full 10-11 digits of the new calibration code. As long as they did that, then there won't be any problem reflashing the Superchip to the new code, we'll just need to know what the new calibration code is, and then we can cross reference that with your old computer code, to determine what you're new software revision actually is.

Worst case scenario, if they cannot properly identify the new calibration code, or we cannot cross-reference it, we can do a "read" on your computer, to determine it's new software load without a doubt, and then reprogram your Superchip accordingly.

You might want to give me a call so I can go over all of this with you in detail, so you don't get any surprises, so please feel free to give us a shout over the phone, ok?

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html

[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 04-05-2000).]

 

Sending an email off line to you about this Mike....

-kindest regards

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1999 F150 4x4, wedgewood blue, 5.4l auto, Manick brush guard, Duraliner, KC Hilites, surf rod holders, tinted windows, K&N air filter without airbox, Velocity air intake tube, Midas Performance muffler with dual pipes, toolbox, Uniden CB with whip and now, enjoying a new reprieve on life with a 2000 series 5.4L (swapped engine due to Piston Slap).

 

HI wjt,

Got your email, and wrote you a detailed response. I look forward to speaking with you on the phone, whenever you have time.

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html

 

Mike,

Superchip didn't work, please check your email......

-kindest regards

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1999 F150 4x4, wedgewood blue, 5.4l auto, Manick brush guard, Duraliner, KC Hilites, surf rod holders, tinted windows, K&N air filter without airbox, Velocity air intake tube, Midas Performance muffler with dual pipes, toolbox, Uniden CB with whip and now, enjoying a new reprieve on life with a 2000 series 5.4L (swapped engine due to Piston Slap).

 

Dear WJT,

The problem is that your computer has been reflashed to a different computer code, as we discussed in email, and has nothing to do with the Superchip itself. You already have that information by now, and your RMA as well. Superchips is going to "read" your computer to determine it's actual software load, and then reflash your Superchip to it's correct code, and overnight the computer back to you. The Superchip will already be installed, so when you get it back all you have to do is to but the computer back in, and drive away and enjoy it!


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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html

 

hey mike! i got a question for you.
some snotty lady at a conversion place said that they do not get the advertised results when doing dynos on chips - aka: none of them work. claims that the computer will eventually override what the chip is doing to it.
what do you think about that??

(i don't quite believe her b/c i think she was trying to keep her standing as the world's rudest woman - one of the worst salesperson i ever met)

 

Mike,

Received the RMA from you. I will not be able to ship the computer and chip back until the 17th of April -aargh! Sent you an email explaining this, and thanks for the excellent service. ;-)

Now I have to waste a full tank of 92 octane while I'm "chipless" ;-(

-kindest regards

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1999 F150 4x4, wedgewood blue, 5.4l auto, Manick brush guard, Duraliner, KC Hilites, surf rod holders, tinted windows, K&N air filter without airbox, Velocity air intake tube, Midas Performance muffler with dual pipes, toolbox, Uniden CB with whip and now, enjoying a new reprieve on life with a 2000 series 5.4L (swapped engine due to Piston Slap).

 

Pony-

What place? I only know of 1 dyno in Tulsa and they [used to] sell Superchips. Or, are you going to the "city"?

 

Dear Pony,

I think you already know the answer to that question.

I don't think anything about it.

I cannot answer for what someone says, nor will I attempt to. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I wouldn't begin to argue with that type of person. Let them go right on thinking whatever they want to think.

Anyone who has spent any time here on these message boards knows from all of the many reports back that the Superchip, unlike most other chips, does in fact work. It is quite simply the best product of it's kind, made by the people that invented this entire industry. You've been here long enough to have seen all these same posts, and smart enough to know that *all* these people can't be wrong, or lying, or whatever. The Superchip gets favorable (and even rave) reviews and is considered the single best bang-for-the-buck modification on these vehicles for one simple reason: it is.

The bottom line is that you're never going to know *for sure* until you drive a vehicle stock, and then drive it with the Superchip.

For what it may be worth, I'm sorry you had to be exposed to that person, and that type of response.

One thing that we find in these cases where somebody claims they didn't get the same dyno numbers is that you simply cannot compare dyno readings from different dyno's, that never works. Most shop owners have inexpensive Dynojet dynos, which are "inertia" style dynos, that do not have the ability to properly calculate load factors; unless your vehicle just happens to exactly match the 3600 lb. weight of those rollers (and you won't find an F-150 weighing only 3600 lbs, they're more like 4200-5400 depending on configuration), you will never get "exact, accurate" results when comparing incremental gains. Only the more expensive "eddy current" dyno's have the ability to set proper load factors, and compensate for the vehicle's actual weight and that is why Superchips uses $125,000 eddy current dynos, instead of $30,000 Dynojets. The sad thing is that a number of these shop operators have never had a dyno before Dynojet came along and brought basically the first "affordable" chassis dyno to market, and their only hands-on experience is with a Dynojet, or other inertia type of chassis dyno, so when you tell them this, they get angry and swear you're an idiot and don't know what you're talking about. I can't tell you how many times we've seen this. And no, I don't mean to say this about *ALL* shop owners, of course, like any business, there are good and bad, better and worse, informed and uninformed, and everyting in between, and we have the utmost respect for the vast majority of shop owners. Most of them are good honest hard-working people.

This is exactly why the nation's top tuners, like John Lingenfelter, etc., use many different types of chassis dynos at their facilities, to combat this exact same thing.

I said I wouldn't attempt to answer this, but I did anyway, so forgive me. I hope this gives you something of an answer...

I wish you well,

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html

[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 04-07-2000).]