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JET=JUNK
I just wanted to let everyone know that I feel like I have been screwed by JET Chips.
This is my story: I purchased my JET Chip a few months after the purchase of my 99 F150(see sig)The chip went in with out a problem and it never gave me any problems for the six months that it was installed.I reciently did a gear change from the stock 3.55s to 4.10s.A result of the change was that my speedometer was now off by 11 mph so I purchased a Superchips Chip from Mike T @ Performance Products.When my Superchips Chip arrived my truck would not start no matter how much I cleaned the contacs on the computer.After consulting with Mike, we decided the best thing to do was to send my computer to Superchips to find out why I was experiencing a "no start".The reason:BAD JUMPER BOX.So unless I am mistaken,the JET chip should not have worked either.
I dont know about other peoples experiences with JET or their products but this to me,proves that the JET Chip did NOTHING and that JET sells an inferior product and I will never buy another one of their products.
The positive thing that came out of this experience is Mike Troyer at Performance Products.He has spent considerable time on the phone with me answering all of my questions, and I would recomend him to anyone that is considering the purchase of a computer chip.
As for the Superchips chip,I am waiting to get my computer back so I will post an update when I have info.
Thanks again Mike.
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99 F 150 4x4.ORP,S/B 4.6 4.10 gears, Gibson 3" cat back. K&N filter. Superchip
This is my story: I purchased my JET Chip a few months after the purchase of my 99 F150(see sig)The chip went in with out a problem and it never gave me any problems for the six months that it was installed.I reciently did a gear change from the stock 3.55s to 4.10s.A result of the change was that my speedometer was now off by 11 mph so I purchased a Superchips Chip from Mike T @ Performance Products.When my Superchips Chip arrived my truck would not start no matter how much I cleaned the contacs on the computer.After consulting with Mike, we decided the best thing to do was to send my computer to Superchips to find out why I was experiencing a "no start".The reason:BAD JUMPER BOX.So unless I am mistaken,the JET chip should not have worked either.
I dont know about other peoples experiences with JET or their products but this to me,proves that the JET Chip did NOTHING and that JET sells an inferior product and I will never buy another one of their products.
The positive thing that came out of this experience is Mike Troyer at Performance Products.He has spent considerable time on the phone with me answering all of my questions, and I would recomend him to anyone that is considering the purchase of a computer chip.
As for the Superchips chip,I am waiting to get my computer back so I will post an update when I have info.
Thanks again Mike.
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99 F 150 4x4.ORP,S/B 4.6 4.10 gears, Gibson 3" cat back. K&N filter. Superchip
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From: miami,fl , dade
I've had a jet chip for almost 3 years and have been very happy with it.It does everything the superchip does from what I've read,in my opinion. It gave me crisp shifts,don't know how much hp, but did feel improvement.I'm sure there are some unhappy superchip owners out there.I think either one would be fine.I'm happy with jet as are alot of people,to each his own.
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A Superchip is like a JET chip in that they are both chips. After that there is a big difference. A JET chip only works at WOT, a Superchip works all the time. The jet chip dose not do anything at idle or part throttle, so it cannot do every thing that a Superchip does.
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I purchased a jet chip for my 97 F150 and after a week I took it out and returned it. I did notice the HP increase, whatever it was, but I also noticed 14 MPG down to 11 MPG and I don't have a heavy foot.
So unfortunately I have to say the JET chip was not as impressive as I thought. I guess I should have done my homework.
-- 97 F150,4x4,SC,4.6,XLT,K&N,Lund moonvisor & bug shield,stepshields.
So unfortunately I have to say the JET chip was not as impressive as I thought. I guess I should have done my homework.
-- 97 F150,4x4,SC,4.6,XLT,K&N,Lund moonvisor & bug shield,stepshields.
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From: orange ma
I have had a jet chip in my '98 f250 ld 4.6 for almost a year and have been extremely pleased with it, increased power, and improved mileage. Had a problem because I did not properly clean the goop off the computer contacts but resolved that and it runs like a charm. 
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Wow, this can be a hot topic and get heated rather quickly! I wanted to make a few comments if I may, not in any attempt to make owners of JET products feel bad about what they have, but just to point out some very important differences......
The idea is to improve performance *all* the time, not only at WOT, and the chipmakers that only tune at WOT do so mainly for 2 reasons: first, they simply do not know how to tune properly at all throttle positions, and second, they will not go thru what Superchips has to in order to certify for emissions compliance in all 50 states, which you must do if you tune anywhere other than full-throttle, and want people to legally be able to use the product on the street in all 50 states, as only Superchips does. Tuning only on WOT reduces R&D costs to the manufacturer by roughly 80%, and so it gets down to a matter of dollars and cents. Some people are happy with only having WOT performance improvements, but the vast majority are not, once they get a chance to actually experience the difference, and that is important to remember, as a lot of people with other chips have never actually had a Superchip and thus are not aware of the difference, quite naturally. Because all performance chips require you to run premium gas, you might as well get the benefit from it *all* the time, instead of only when you're foot is all the way to the floor. Face it, almost nobody spends even as much as 5% of their time behind the wheel of their daily driver at WOT; the vast majority of our driving is done on part-throttle, and that is why the Superchip sells far more than any other chipmaker, because it not only adds more power at WOT, but it adds power *all* the time. Over the past 18 months here we have seen many cases of people trying other chips, and then trying a Superchip, and they always prefer the Superchip.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want anyone using a JET product to feel bad about their purchase, that isn't my point at all; if you're happy, then we are happy for you. We're not here to start arguing over this, that isn't what we're about. What we attempt to do here is provide factual imformation about this industry and it's products, and answer the many questions people have. I'm not trying to convince people who are happy with their JET chip to say it's junk and stop using it, not at all!
Here's something that will help some of you understand this a bit better: The emissions laws are structured so that during WOT (wide-open throttle) operation, there are no emissions standards that have to be met, and so consequently, the vast majority of companies in this business only tune at WOT, they've never learned to do it at all throttle positions, and will never spend what it takes to actually improve performance *and* overall driveability under all circumstances. They go to great lengths to say things like "we tune across the entire rpm range", a totally meaningless statement. Sure, it's across the whole rpm range, everyone does that. But it's only at full-throttle, and the Superchip adds power from 1000 rpm on up, regardless of throttle position. Chips that tune only at WOT cannot help with towing, where you need more torque on part-throttle; they do not do anything to improve driveability, and cannot improve gas mileage either, all of which the Superchip does, and more.
Most people would be very surprised to learn that JET doesn't make many of the products that bear their name, they simply have OEM deals with other manufacturers. If it sells, it sells, and if it doesn't, oh well, they go on to the next thing.
Superchips is the only major chipmaker who does only that; virtually everyone else, from Hypertech to Jet etc., sell throttle body airfoils, intake add-ons, oil filters with their name on it, and various other products, such as abnormally cold thermostats, etc. Anything they can turn for a buck, in other words, to increase sales volume. Superchips is the only one that makes only one basic product line, the very best programs and programming products available.
The bottom line is simply that the Superchip is the best product of it's kind, made by the company that *invented* this entire industry; Superchips is the only aftermarket programming firm that is used directly by many of the major automakers. It does more for the vehicle, adds more actual power to the engine than any other similar product, it works *all* the time, and even costs less than most of the others as well. It does not require you to use any other gimmicks to make it work, like abnormally cold thermostats, etc.
But let's set all of that aside for the moment, and talk about what is *really* important.....the only thing that really and honestly matters to each individual vehicle owner is whether or not you as an individual are happy with what you have! And if you're happy, then we're happy for you. Enjoy what you have, and we wish you all the best.
Our bests to all,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html
[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 03-31-2000).]
The idea is to improve performance *all* the time, not only at WOT, and the chipmakers that only tune at WOT do so mainly for 2 reasons: first, they simply do not know how to tune properly at all throttle positions, and second, they will not go thru what Superchips has to in order to certify for emissions compliance in all 50 states, which you must do if you tune anywhere other than full-throttle, and want people to legally be able to use the product on the street in all 50 states, as only Superchips does. Tuning only on WOT reduces R&D costs to the manufacturer by roughly 80%, and so it gets down to a matter of dollars and cents. Some people are happy with only having WOT performance improvements, but the vast majority are not, once they get a chance to actually experience the difference, and that is important to remember, as a lot of people with other chips have never actually had a Superchip and thus are not aware of the difference, quite naturally. Because all performance chips require you to run premium gas, you might as well get the benefit from it *all* the time, instead of only when you're foot is all the way to the floor. Face it, almost nobody spends even as much as 5% of their time behind the wheel of their daily driver at WOT; the vast majority of our driving is done on part-throttle, and that is why the Superchip sells far more than any other chipmaker, because it not only adds more power at WOT, but it adds power *all* the time. Over the past 18 months here we have seen many cases of people trying other chips, and then trying a Superchip, and they always prefer the Superchip.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want anyone using a JET product to feel bad about their purchase, that isn't my point at all; if you're happy, then we are happy for you. We're not here to start arguing over this, that isn't what we're about. What we attempt to do here is provide factual imformation about this industry and it's products, and answer the many questions people have. I'm not trying to convince people who are happy with their JET chip to say it's junk and stop using it, not at all!
Here's something that will help some of you understand this a bit better: The emissions laws are structured so that during WOT (wide-open throttle) operation, there are no emissions standards that have to be met, and so consequently, the vast majority of companies in this business only tune at WOT, they've never learned to do it at all throttle positions, and will never spend what it takes to actually improve performance *and* overall driveability under all circumstances. They go to great lengths to say things like "we tune across the entire rpm range", a totally meaningless statement. Sure, it's across the whole rpm range, everyone does that. But it's only at full-throttle, and the Superchip adds power from 1000 rpm on up, regardless of throttle position. Chips that tune only at WOT cannot help with towing, where you need more torque on part-throttle; they do not do anything to improve driveability, and cannot improve gas mileage either, all of which the Superchip does, and more.
Most people would be very surprised to learn that JET doesn't make many of the products that bear their name, they simply have OEM deals with other manufacturers. If it sells, it sells, and if it doesn't, oh well, they go on to the next thing.
Superchips is the only major chipmaker who does only that; virtually everyone else, from Hypertech to Jet etc., sell throttle body airfoils, intake add-ons, oil filters with their name on it, and various other products, such as abnormally cold thermostats, etc. Anything they can turn for a buck, in other words, to increase sales volume. Superchips is the only one that makes only one basic product line, the very best programs and programming products available.
The bottom line is simply that the Superchip is the best product of it's kind, made by the company that *invented* this entire industry; Superchips is the only aftermarket programming firm that is used directly by many of the major automakers. It does more for the vehicle, adds more actual power to the engine than any other similar product, it works *all* the time, and even costs less than most of the others as well. It does not require you to use any other gimmicks to make it work, like abnormally cold thermostats, etc.
But let's set all of that aside for the moment, and talk about what is *really* important.....the only thing that really and honestly matters to each individual vehicle owner is whether or not you as an individual are happy with what you have! And if you're happy, then we're happy for you. Enjoy what you have, and we wish you all the best.
Our bests to all,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html
[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 03-31-2000).]
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From: miami,fl , dade
ps398 Please tell me what good is your chip at idle? Don't we all buy the chip for better perfomance? Which means WOT,foot to the floor,pedal to the metal,atleast thats the sole purpose of my chip. Why buy a chip to idle or go half throttle.From what I've read both jet and superchips work very well.I just happen to own jet.MY IDEA OF FUN IS TO FLOOR IT.
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Mike answered for me! I want the trans to shift firmly all the time, I want the truck to pull harder at part throttle, and I did not want to spend money on something that only worked when I mashed the gas pedal. If that is what you wanted then great! I wanted an all around improvement in my trucks performance and a Superchip is the only chip that would do that. My point was that a JET chip and a Superchip are very different from each other, and they do not do the same things. I was not putting you down for buying a JET chip. I was only trying to clarify that the statement that a JET does everything that a Superchip does is not correct. Sorry if I offended you.