superchip requirments
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superchip requirments
I was reading on the superchip website that it reprograms the computer for premium gas. Is it really worth it on a v6? and is the gas worth the extra $$$ ?
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2000 150 sport solid white, K&N filterpack the rest is still stock....for now anyway!
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If I do get a chip can I still run 87 octane or is it nesecary to alway run premium? What is the price of the super chip and does it make a diiference if any previous mods have benn made?
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2000 150 sport solid white, K&N filterpack the rest is still stock....for now anyway!
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snow white,
Call Mike on prices, he offers a discount to members of F-150 Online!
Concerning the type of gas required, if you get the regular superchip, it requires at least 92 octane due to the re-programing of the fuel curve and spark advance.
For this reason, I ordered the Flip Chip. It cost more, but I actually have two chips now and can switch between them with a flip of a switch. The first program is for 87 octane, it gives me all the advantages of the transmission mods and the removal of the spark retard between shift points, and I can still run regular unleaded. The second program gives me all that plus the added HP achieved through the engine mods that take advantage of the higher octane fuel! The difference between the two settings is quite noticable!
The normal superchip will work fine with most aftermarket mods, such as cat back exhaust, and intake mods. Super chargers, turbo chargers, or drastic internal mods such as cam and piston changes would require custom programing. Again, I'm no expert, all I'm doing is re-stating information I have learned since joining this site! Mike is the best source, and he great to talk to! Call or e-mail him!
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Paul...
99 F-150 XLT SC Sport, 4.6L, Auto, Captain Chairs, Class III Towing Package, 3.55 LS, Sliding Rear Window, White, 4X2, CD, Soft Factory Tonneau Cover, K&N Filter, WMS Velocity Tube, Line-X Spray on Bed Liner, Gibson Side Swept Cat Back System, Superchips Flip Chip, and the Original F150online Decal...
What more is there!
PaulT@f150online.net
Call Mike on prices, he offers a discount to members of F-150 Online!
Concerning the type of gas required, if you get the regular superchip, it requires at least 92 octane due to the re-programing of the fuel curve and spark advance.
For this reason, I ordered the Flip Chip. It cost more, but I actually have two chips now and can switch between them with a flip of a switch. The first program is for 87 octane, it gives me all the advantages of the transmission mods and the removal of the spark retard between shift points, and I can still run regular unleaded. The second program gives me all that plus the added HP achieved through the engine mods that take advantage of the higher octane fuel! The difference between the two settings is quite noticable!
The normal superchip will work fine with most aftermarket mods, such as cat back exhaust, and intake mods. Super chargers, turbo chargers, or drastic internal mods such as cam and piston changes would require custom programing. Again, I'm no expert, all I'm doing is re-stating information I have learned since joining this site! Mike is the best source, and he great to talk to! Call or e-mail him!
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Paul...
99 F-150 XLT SC Sport, 4.6L, Auto, Captain Chairs, Class III Towing Package, 3.55 LS, Sliding Rear Window, White, 4X2, CD, Soft Factory Tonneau Cover, K&N Filter, WMS Velocity Tube, Line-X Spray on Bed Liner, Gibson Side Swept Cat Back System, Superchips Flip Chip, and the Original F150online Decal...
What more is there!
PaulT@f150online.net
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snow white,
Go for it!! The way I see it it's a pretty inexpensive mod. for what you get, and for an additional few dollars per fill up it's well worth it. To me atleast
Just give Mike a call if you have not done so already. And he will fill you in.
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99 Black F150 4x4 4.2
Powerdyne SVO BD11-a Supercharger
24 psi.high flow fuel injectors
Boost gauge 30"HG-20PSI A piller mount
K&N air filter
True dual exhaust w/Flowmasters(2 1/2 in. pipe)
custom programed Superchip(Flip chip)
All black factory sport package.
Rhino Liner
GTO smoke headlight&tailight covers
limo tint
Mods. to come 4.10gears
Go for it!! The way I see it it's a pretty inexpensive mod. for what you get, and for an additional few dollars per fill up it's well worth it. To me atleast
Just give Mike a call if you have not done so already. And he will fill you in.
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99 Black F150 4x4 4.2
Powerdyne SVO BD11-a Supercharger
24 psi.high flow fuel injectors
Boost gauge 30"HG-20PSI A piller mount
K&N air filter
True dual exhaust w/Flowmasters(2 1/2 in. pipe)
custom programed Superchip(Flip chip)
All black factory sport package.
Rhino Liner
GTO smoke headlight&tailight covers
limo tint
Mods. to come 4.10gears
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Dear Superchips_Distributor,
Is it o.k to use ethanol fuel with a superchip.
"Ethanol has a proven track record, internationally, as an automobile fuel. The fuel ethanol industry is well developed in the United States. Sales of ethanol-gasoline blends represent about 8 - 9 % of the total gasoline sales in the United States last year -- greater than the entire Canadian gasoline market. Americans have driven over 3 trillion kilometres on ethanol-blended fuels since 1979." footnote: http://www.greenfuels.org/ethatech.html
I really want a SuperChip, would have bought one if it wasn't for my little accident (500$ deductible). But when I get one, would you recommend not using this fuel? Please let me know. (Thanks for your activity in these forums----Do you have a Ford truck?)
thanks
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Is it o.k to use ethanol fuel with a superchip.
"Ethanol has a proven track record, internationally, as an automobile fuel. The fuel ethanol industry is well developed in the United States. Sales of ethanol-gasoline blends represent about 8 - 9 % of the total gasoline sales in the United States last year -- greater than the entire Canadian gasoline market. Americans have driven over 3 trillion kilometres on ethanol-blended fuels since 1979." footnote: http://www.greenfuels.org/ethatech.html
I really want a SuperChip, would have bought one if it wasn't for my little accident (500$ deductible). But when I get one, would you recommend not using this fuel? Please let me know. (Thanks for your activity in these forums----Do you have a Ford truck?)
thanks
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1997 4x4 XLT 4.2l ORP 5-speed
For more details and pics please see my site...Thanks
www.eph1fifty.cjb.net
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Wow fast46triton you are really on the ball today already replied to both of my posts!
Seriously thinking about chiping her but kinda want to wait till the gas prices go down. Does it run on premium or super? How much did it set u back?
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2000 150 sport solid white, K&N filterpack the rest is still stock....for now anyway!
Seriously thinking about chiping her but kinda want to wait till the gas prices go down. Does it run on premium or super? How much did it set u back?
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2000 150 sport solid white, K&N filterpack the rest is still stock....for now anyway!
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Dear Snow White,
Any performance chip is going to require the use of premium gasoline, that is basically how the engine's raw power is increased, by programming specifically for the higher octane. For the 4.2 V-6 F-150, it adds 25 horsepower and 31 lbs./ft. of torque.
You asked the ultimate question, "Is it worth it?" That is all in the eyes of the beholder, is the honest answer. Most people tend to get an improvement in gas mileage using the Superchip, though it's usually not enough to completely offset the cost of premium gas. The funny thing is though, that as gas prices get higher, the Superchip makes more sense financially, because the price delta between regular and premium doesn't change much if at all. So as gas prices rise, the Superchip stands a better chance of making up for the increased cost of premium. For example, the price delta between regular and premium is anywhere from 10 to as much as 25 cents a gallon, depending on where you are in the country. So even though the price of gas goes up, the cost difference between regular and premium stays basically the same.
Let's look at this example: if you do not get *any* improvement in gas mileage from the Superchip, assuming 15,000 miles driven per year, your increase in gasoline costs run at the most, $150 - $200 per year, and that's a very small amount on a monthly basis, and even smaller per week. So worst case scenario, your actual increase in fuel costs is very small. Then when you factor in the fact that most people do see some improvement, especially when cruising on the highway, those numbers tend to get even smaller for most of us.
Now, if you drive a *lot* of miles, and/or do mostly city driving, or drive heavily loaded most of the time and have to use a lot of heavy throttle, that can of course cause those numbers to rise, so it all gets down to how you operate your vehicle, and your local fuel quality in terms of it's actual energy content. This increase in gas mileage is merely a by-product of the increased spark advance used on part-throttle, so your actual results will depend primarly on your operating conditions and environment, and your fuel quality.
For most of us, the increased performance and improved driveability is well worth any additional fuel costs. But ultimately, that is a decision that you have to make for yourself. There are a lot of guys right here using the Superchip on their V-6 F-150's, so I'm sure you'll get a number of responses from them, and it will be good feedback to get. Is the power gain worth it? That's easy, yes it is, in my humble opinion. 25 hp. & 31 lbs./ft. of torque at the flywheel, taking your 205 hp. V-6 up to the 230 hp peak range. So I think it's worth it, but then, we sell the product, so our opinion is obviously going to be biased. It's *your* opinion that counts, as it's your vehicle.
Feel free to give us a call if you'd like to discuss this in greater detail, and I'm sure you'll get other responses back here from other guys using the Superchip on their V-6 F-150.
Good luck with your truck,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html
Any performance chip is going to require the use of premium gasoline, that is basically how the engine's raw power is increased, by programming specifically for the higher octane. For the 4.2 V-6 F-150, it adds 25 horsepower and 31 lbs./ft. of torque.
You asked the ultimate question, "Is it worth it?" That is all in the eyes of the beholder, is the honest answer. Most people tend to get an improvement in gas mileage using the Superchip, though it's usually not enough to completely offset the cost of premium gas. The funny thing is though, that as gas prices get higher, the Superchip makes more sense financially, because the price delta between regular and premium doesn't change much if at all. So as gas prices rise, the Superchip stands a better chance of making up for the increased cost of premium. For example, the price delta between regular and premium is anywhere from 10 to as much as 25 cents a gallon, depending on where you are in the country. So even though the price of gas goes up, the cost difference between regular and premium stays basically the same.
Let's look at this example: if you do not get *any* improvement in gas mileage from the Superchip, assuming 15,000 miles driven per year, your increase in gasoline costs run at the most, $150 - $200 per year, and that's a very small amount on a monthly basis, and even smaller per week. So worst case scenario, your actual increase in fuel costs is very small. Then when you factor in the fact that most people do see some improvement, especially when cruising on the highway, those numbers tend to get even smaller for most of us.
Now, if you drive a *lot* of miles, and/or do mostly city driving, or drive heavily loaded most of the time and have to use a lot of heavy throttle, that can of course cause those numbers to rise, so it all gets down to how you operate your vehicle, and your local fuel quality in terms of it's actual energy content. This increase in gas mileage is merely a by-product of the increased spark advance used on part-throttle, so your actual results will depend primarly on your operating conditions and environment, and your fuel quality.
For most of us, the increased performance and improved driveability is well worth any additional fuel costs. But ultimately, that is a decision that you have to make for yourself. There are a lot of guys right here using the Superchip on their V-6 F-150's, so I'm sure you'll get a number of responses from them, and it will be good feedback to get. Is the power gain worth it? That's easy, yes it is, in my humble opinion. 25 hp. & 31 lbs./ft. of torque at the flywheel, taking your 205 hp. V-6 up to the 230 hp peak range. So I think it's worth it, but then, we sell the product, so our opinion is obviously going to be biased.
It's *your* opinion that counts, as it's your vehicle.Feel free to give us a call if you'd like to discuss this in greater detail, and I'm sure you'll get other responses back here from other guys using the Superchip on their V-6 F-150.
Good luck with your truck,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html
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snow white,
I went with the Flip Chip, and now that the gas prices have sky-rocketed, am glad I did! As fast46 said, the improvements in the transmission performance alone are worth the price! While the initial investment in the Flip Chip is more, I'm glad I have the choice of 87 or 92 octane, depending on my mood, and still keep the transmission shifting like a truck should!
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Paul...
99 F-150 XLT SC Sport, 4.6L, Auto, Captain Chairs, Class III Towing Package, 3.55 LS, Sliding Rear Window, White, 4X2, CD, Soft Factory Tonneau Cover, K&N Filter, WMS Velocity Tube, Line-X Spray on Bed Liner, Gibson Side Swept Cat Back System, Superchips Flip Chip, and the Original F150online Decal...
What more is there!
PaulT@f150online.net
I went with the Flip Chip, and now that the gas prices have sky-rocketed, am glad I did! As fast46 said, the improvements in the transmission performance alone are worth the price! While the initial investment in the Flip Chip is more, I'm glad I have the choice of 87 or 92 octane, depending on my mood, and still keep the transmission shifting like a truck should!
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Paul...
99 F-150 XLT SC Sport, 4.6L, Auto, Captain Chairs, Class III Towing Package, 3.55 LS, Sliding Rear Window, White, 4X2, CD, Soft Factory Tonneau Cover, K&N Filter, WMS Velocity Tube, Line-X Spray on Bed Liner, Gibson Side Swept Cat Back System, Superchips Flip Chip, and the Original F150online Decal...
What more is there!
PaulT@f150online.net
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Steve,
It is Ok to use ethenol blended fules in your F-150. Southwestern Ontario has been using it for some time now. It is mostly in the premium blends. My chip performs well with it. BTW I took a peek at your web page.
Nice pictures. Mont Shefford, is that off HYW 112 near Granby? Next time I visit my in-laws in Drummondville I will try to get in touch with you and maybe we could go and get our trucks stuck.
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks,
SmittyBilt Nerfs, Borla Cat Back
Modified Air Cleaner Outlet Tube,
Superchips
It is Ok to use ethenol blended fules in your F-150. Southwestern Ontario has been using it for some time now. It is mostly in the premium blends. My chip performs well with it. BTW I took a peek at your web page.
Nice pictures. Mont Shefford, is that off HYW 112 near Granby? Next time I visit my in-laws in Drummondville I will try to get in touch with you and maybe we could go and get our trucks stuck.
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
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00 F-150 XLT SC Flairside 4x4 4.6 w/5spd
Warn XD9000i, skid plates, Draw tite class III,
Rancho RSX Reflex shocks,
SmittyBilt Nerfs, Borla Cat Back
Modified Air Cleaner Outlet Tube,
Superchips
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Mike,
Six days and a wake-up!! I'm so short I can dangle my legs off the edge of a dime!
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Paul...
99 F-150 XLT SC Sport, 4.6L, Auto, Captain Chairs, Class III Towing Package, 3.55 LS, Sliding Rear Window, White, 4X2, CD, Soft Factory Tonneau Cover, K&N Filter, WMS Velocity Tube, Line-X Spray on Bed Liner, Gibson Side Swept Cat Back System, Superchips Flip Chip, and the Original F150online Decal...
What more is there!
PaulT@f150online.net
Six days and a wake-up!! I'm so short I can dangle my legs off the edge of a dime!
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Paul...
99 F-150 XLT SC Sport, 4.6L, Auto, Captain Chairs, Class III Towing Package, 3.55 LS, Sliding Rear Window, White, 4X2, CD, Soft Factory Tonneau Cover, K&N Filter, WMS Velocity Tube, Line-X Spray on Bed Liner, Gibson Side Swept Cat Back System, Superchips Flip Chip, and the Original F150online Decal...
What more is there!
PaulT@f150online.net
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From: Virginia
Snow White,
Yes, that is sick. I've been called many things, but a drug dealer of horsepower?!? I guess we're lucky it's legal, and not a drug eh? Hmmm, can horsepower really be addictive? Is it a drug??
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html
Yes, that is sick. I've been called many things, but a drug dealer of horsepower?!? I guess we're lucky it's legal, and not a drug eh?
Hmmm, can horsepower really be addictive? Is it a drug??------------------
Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html
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JMC,
You can take the 112 or the 10, its near Bromont actually. It would be cool if we could go to Mount Glen, extreme off-road.
check out my post. But shefford is a nice relax mountain that you have to share with cars
unless you go on the hidden trails
thats where we go on photo sessions for our products, great views...
https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/000016.html
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1997 4x4 XLT 4.2l ORP 5-speed
For more details and pics please see my site...Thanks
www.eph1fifty.cjb.net
You can take the 112 or the 10, its near Bromont actually. It would be cool if we could go to Mount Glen, extreme off-road.
check out my post. But shefford is a nice relax mountain that you have to share with cars
unless you go on the hidden trails thats where we go on photo sessions for our products, great views...
https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/000016.html
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1997 4x4 XLT 4.2l ORP 5-speed
For more details and pics please see my site...Thanks
www.eph1fifty.cjb.net