"Isn't if funny?, We produce more than enough oil in the U.S. and it's territories, but OPEC still controls things."

With the premium fuel price on the rise, I ask this.....How many of you pulled your "electronic enhancements" due to the prices of fuel?

Personally, I'll deal with it for a while.



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1999 F250 SD CC, LWB, 5.4L, Auto, 3.73, 4x4, Power TT mirrors w/ marker lights, White, Full Tint, PendaPro SR, Flowmaster Delta 40 series, K&N filtercharger, Electronic Enhancement Module (Airbox removed for a second try, maybe in the winter it will be advantagous?) Lund Elite soft tonneau

www.angelfire.com/pa3/spaceace/index.html

 

NOT ME!! NO WAY!!
well I was going to have Mike retune my chip for some detonation issues..........maybe now is a good time.

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Andthensometoo ®
"Moonlight Blue" 98 F150 SC XLT 2WD 4.6, 3.55 LS Tow Pkg. SUPERCHIP, K&N Airbox mod. w/ "Cool" intake, Mobil One Oil, Bosch +4's, Throttle Body Spacer Plate. Lund Fastback, Lighted visor, Runninng Boards, Crome Taillight covers, Polished Steel Fenderwell Moldings, Smoked Bug and Rain guards, Shelf-it, Carpet dash cover, "Andthensometoo" in silver Letters 3" tall on tail gate. Red Wings license plate in front, Red Wings license plate frame in back, Little Detroit Viper hanging from mirror, Oh yeah, and one "Blacked-out" grill.
Gonna get my Bed rails back on, Finally!
Couldn't find the right Polished steel design, so once I modify the powercoated ones I just bought, I will paint them.

Q: who wants my "Pocket Mount" chrome ones? Price:cost of shipping, or gas and maybe lunch if you live in S/E MI.

"Rocks don't move unless pushed, and neither do chevys!"

http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/daytona/843/

 

I haven't pulled my chip........yet. Actually I like what it does for for the transmission more than anything. Which brings me to a question for Mike T. If I wanted, could I get my chip reflashed to retain only the transmission alterations? If fuel prices get too much higher I'm going to have to start burning regular again, which means pulling the chip out. If it comes to that what would be more cost effective, reflashing the chip or installing a shift kit?

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98 F-150 XLT 4X4 ORP Super Cab Short Bed, 4.6, Auto. Superchip, Gibson sing. cat-back, Airaid, 80/100w German head lamps. Warn HS9500i winch with semi hidden mount. Wrangler dual battery kit with red & yellow top Optima batteries. Torsion bars cranked up 2 turns. Needs one more door and a lot more power. I think I need to talk to Mr. Whipple.

 

Silly me. I waited till it got expensive to even put mine in! Put it in two weeks ago.

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97 F-150 SC Lariat, Styleside, White over Gold, 4.6L (Windsor), Automatic, 3.55 rear end, electronic 4X4, w/ every option of Lariat and ORP packages except the 17" wheels (I even got the OR decals now!) MOD's so far: K&N air box mod, Gibson Super Truck, clear Bugflector II, Leer TSC 600 hard cover, Bridgestone Dueler OWL ATP 265/75 R-16's, TrailMaster Invader N7 shocks, Smittybilt step bars, Ford moulded mud guards, "White-white" head lamps, Cloud Rider Design's SS Grill and bumper opening, Bosch Platinum + 4's, Hayden 30K+ Tranny Cooler,Class III Reece load distributing hitch system, full wiring including trailer battery charging system, Escort Sensor II Brake controller, Superchip

 

I plan to keep using mine with 92 octane as long as I can. Maybe I will skip lunch to make up the difference in gas prices.


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97 F-150, 2WD, Reg Cab,Flareside,Dk Toreador Red, Windsor 4.6, Magnecor 8.5mm wires, Bosch Plat +4s, 3.55 LS, EGR Bug Deflector, ******* Bed Cover, Bed Liner, XL Full Length Running Boards, Air Aid Kit, Gibson Single Out Cat Back, Superchips, TransGo Shift Kit, Hellwig Rear Sway Bar, Hellwig 2500# Overload Springs

 

How many people here really think that a 20 cent or even a 50 cent rise in gas prices is going to change your life style that much. I fill up once a day at 30-35 bucks a tank...I will be getting my superchip in a few weeks and I will be paying about 10 more cents a gallon...even at 2.00 a gallon it's not that big a deal. It sucks but it's not the end of the world.

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Y2K F150 4x4 ORP Lariat 5.4L Loaded to the max Oxford white all the way down
K&N filter,tinted glass,DEE-ZEE platnium series black tool box,much much more to come...I will keep y'all updated
One Hooters Hoop Fever Basket Ball.
edwardmb@earthlink.net
I like cake.

 

We're always keeping ours in, go figure!

Actually, the higher gas prices go, just like when it happened last year and the year before, the more financial sense the Superchip usually makes in most situations, because the actual **price delta** between regular and premium does not change much if at all. So as gas prices go higher, the *percentage* of cost difference gets smaller and smaller, and the Superchip has a better chance of coming closer to paying for the cost difference between regular and premium with increased gas mileage. There will always be exceptions, and people whose circumstances just don't permit them to use it, of course, but that is the exception rather than the rule, as we've seen here from the numbers that have been posted over the last year and a half or so.

Now before anyone goes off the deep end here, let me explain. The price delta between regular and premium does not change much if at all as overall gas prices rise, it's still the same 12-25 cent a gallon difference in most places, with much of the country paying no more than 20 cents per gallon more for premium over regular. As prices rise, that difference in terms of a percentage gets smaller and smaller, that is what I mean.

For those of us who do closely, precisely, and accurately monitor our gas mileage, most of us do see some improvement in gas mileage when using the Superchip with premium, as compared to the factory programming using regular, and that reduces the cost difference between regular and premium even further. The reason I stated "closely, precisely, & accurately" is simply because when we talk to people over the phone and ask them specific questions with regards to their gas mileage, we find that many times they really aren't accurately and closely calculating their mileage on an ongoing basis, most people are just too busy, of course! Don't get me wrong, I know there are a lot of us who *do* carefully and accurately keep track, but a lot of people just don't bother, and I don't mean any offense in saying this, it's just a fact that we've observed over time, by asking certain questions. When we do track mileage accurately, we see that in the vast majority of cases, there is in fact *some* improvement in gas mileage using the Superchip. Now, is it going to pay for the *entire* difference between regular and premium? Not for most people! For us here is does, thanks to our rather low price delta between regular and premium, (10-12 cents usually) but it won't for most people. That point is reached at about 14-15 cents per gallon, meaning once the delta reaches that point, the Superchip usually can't make up the entire difference in the F-150. Which is why we did some calculations, and determined that the price delta between regular and premium stays fairly constant. So if you figure somebody driving 15,000 miles a year on average, assuming they see absolutely *no* improvement in gas mileage using the Superchip, their increased gasoline costs are still very small, $150 -$200 per year at most, driving that number of miles with a big price delta in their area. Then when you calculate that most people do see some improvement in fuel mileage, those numbers get even smaller.

Now of course my point of view is biased, since we sell the product! But if you carefully calculate actual mileage results, you find that the cost difference isn't that much unless you drive a lot of miles, which some people here do, and drive them loaded and/or hard, which some do. So this won't fit *everybody*, these are just some average numbers for realistic comparison and perspective.

Everytime when gas prices go up, this discussion is gone over again and again here, probably as it should. And each time we find that when you carefully and accurately do these calculations of actual mileage & fuel costs with the Superchip, we find that it just isn't that big a factor in terms of real dollars for *most* people. Yes, there will always be exceptions for those who drive a lot of miles, so that has to be taken into consideration by those individuals. I think that FDLFDCoD said it very well when he said it's not enough of a difference to change your lifestyle, and he drives quite a bit more miles than most of us, since he fills up everyday.

I don't think there is any question that we're seeing more of the typical gouging that this industry subjects us to, with seemingly little to no protection by the government of it's citizens against those who will gouge us at every opportunity. OPEC isn't exactly my Christmas card list, either.

Those of us who have traveled extensively know that here in America we are lucky to have the lowest gasoline prices in the world, by a large margin. We've grown up on low gas prices, especially in comparison to just about anywhere else in the world, so we hate it when those prices rise, it seems somehow, well, downright un-American.

Just a little perspective, no tomato-throwing necessary.

Our bests to all,

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html

[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 02-17-2000).]

 

Man, I love it when Mike gets all technical on us.....

Two points I'd like to make about the relative cost of fuel:
- Europe has been paying in the range of 3-5 dollars per gallon for decades
- Factoring in inflationary increases - gasoline is as cheap today as it was almost 50 years ago

I ain't pullin' no chip outta my truck....

Tom in Tacoma

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1998 F150 XLT S/C 4.6L Auto, 3.55LS, 4X2, Moonlight Blue, all the factory bells & whistles except for leather seats. Lund Deflector, Lund Premier Tonneau, K&N, Body-color painted Throttle Cover, blue wire-looms, Pentaliner S/R, Window tint, factory side-steps, Infiniti component speakers up front, Polk Audio speakers in back, Superchip on an FOU1 code(same as NASCAR edition). Tom in Tacoma (Washington not Toyota)
Go check out http://communities.msn.com/SS97FordsPics for the second best website for F150's

 

I too just got my chip and there's no way I'm gonna pull it. Of course it doesn't even matter on my truck, I still have to pay the same, chip or no chip. But with chip I do get better fuel milage Some places around here has diesel costing more than premium!!! Words can't describe how mad this hike in fuel prices has made me

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2000 F250 Crew Cab 4x2 6 speed Diesel XLT Super Duty, Woodland Green
Power Mirrors, 3.73 LS, Captains Chairs, ARE tonneau top, mud flaps
Trailer tow Pkg, Class IV hitch, sliding rear window, running boards
rear privacy glass, 265/75/16 AS OWL tires, am/fm/cassette/cd
Clarion APA 5240 amp, Memphis speakers:Components front, 5x7 rear, 10"sub
SuperChip, Stepshields, Ventshields on windows, rubber bed mat
rugged liner bedliner on tailgate

 

Hey Tina:
Lord what an awesome truck you "just" got.
I must have missed several posts, as I thought you still had your '97.
Before the Lightning was announced, I was toying with the idea of getting just about the same vehicle you purchased. Hope you are having fun. I may still go that direction when the lease on Moby is up.
Bill

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Bill Murray
99 Lightning #247
PSP Chip & Filter
Spare Superchip
Bassani full system TBI
Oxford White w/normal options.
98 Lincoln Continental Stock
56 F100 Big Window 272 w/TBird intake headers Fordomatic
56 F100 small window w/built 300" I6
69 Belair 390/427/400 Built
69 C10 Panel Stock
Soon: 92 Town Car
Tamiya 1/10 Lightning
Lightning & Thunder Rag Doll Cats.
E-mail MOSTOYSINC@AOL.com
htuken@BellSouth.net
HobbyTown1@WebTV.net
Kennesaw (Atlanta) Ga.

 

Just got mine back from Mike, wasted no time in reinstalling it, however, i do have to admit, while it was away I cheated and used Regular, Sorry...

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Gino Tedesco, '99 XLT 5.4l, SUPERCHIPPED, 3" Gibson catback exhaust,4x4 S/C Flareside D.wedge bl/Dk.graph, factory sidesteps & Tonneau cover, Manik grlgaurd w/Piaa lights, 305/70-16 Goodyear Wrangler AT/S tires

 

I'm glad I got my Flip Chip! I just flip my chip till the prices go back down! Thanks Mike!

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Paul...
99 F-150 XLT SC Sport, 4.6L, Auto, Captain Chairs, Class III Towing Package, 3.55 LS, Sliding Rear Window, White, 4X2, CD, Soft Factory Tonneau Cover, K&N Filter, WMS Velocity Tube, Line-X Spray on Bed Liner, Gibson Side Swept Cat Back System, Superchips Flip Chip, and the Original F150online Decal...

What more is there!

PaulT@f150online.net

 

Bill M: yep, the new truck's a beauty. Driving it is easy. Now parking is another story!! I sold the 97 to "Spartan". He joined us in Chat last night so I got to ask how the beast was doing. (yep, I'm still missing that truck) But he seems to be liking it as well as I did. One thing that I especially like about this diesel is it's fuel milage (18-22mpg) You just can't beat that in a truck the size and weight of mine!!!

 

Tina's situation with her diesel Superchip is different that those of us with gas engines running Superchips. She doesn't have to use any different fuel, and the diesel's pick up substantial mileage gains from the Superchip. Running loaded, it's rare for a diesel Superchip not to pay for itself with increased mileage, as they tend to gain anywhere from 2-6 more mpg when loaded. Running empty, there isn't much of a mileage gain usually, it's when those PSD's are loaded down that they see the mileage improvement from the Superchip. And that is just the opposite of what happens in gasoline motors, as they are most fuel-efficient when they are under the lightest load. Just a little perspective.

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Online Superchip ordering system:https://www.f150online.com/scpp/index.html

 

Bless me Father Mike for I have sinned ... it has been three months since I removed my SuperChip for the Winter ....... and am hidin' from the pre-1999 Z-71s.......

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Dunbarton "The Middle Aged Kid" '99 XLT SC SB 4x2 4.6 auto 3.55 ls The occasional Z-71 Eater! Wedgewood & Denim, SuperChipped, Airaid FIPK, Rhino Liner, Extang Classic tonneau cover, Mobil 1. Man, I got it all! (New Jersey)